Sure, but only if we can do the same for all the crypto-fascist techno/electro groups with catalogs that consist of nothing more than exhortations that we need to dance now and we're going to have a good time now.

Really? Thanks for sharing...

that's just as bad as artists coming and shushing the audience. i hate that. we're not in school, we're in a bar, and if you wanted complete silence for your performance, you should have booked the symphony hall.

also add to this, repeated requests to move closer to the stage. bands need to understand that sometimes b/c of acoustics, sightline, etc. it's a lot more enjoyable and may sound better to stand further away from the stage.

especially distasteful when coupled with the order to, "dance" by a mediocre indie rock band.

can we at least admit seattle crowds are a little reluctant to holler?

and c'mon, the crowd hectoring thing, hate it or love it,is a hiphop standby. you're gonna hear an MC say that shit to you 9 out 10 shows.especially if i'm on the mic.

it's like, i have a hiphop loving friend that somehow ended up at a laptop battle once(god save him)...he started yelling cussing and throwing bows to express his displeasure at how dead-ass it was; but what should he have expected- pyrotechnics? dancers?

More Common retarded commands made from the stage followed by my usual response:

"Throw ya mothefuckin' hands in the air"

Whoops, there goes my two drinks.

"Let me hear ya say ho!"

No.

"(Insert your city here) are you ready to rock?"

I am. Yes, I am ready to rock. No, wait ....

" ... this is our last song"

Time to hit the bar.

"We've got a few more, then (middle band or headliners) are up next"

Time to take a leak, grab a smoke, then hit the bar.

"Tip your bartenders"

Really? This tipping of said bartenders is a foreign concept to most of us gathered here tonight, would please care to explain?

the crowd hectoring thing, hate it or love it,is a hiphop standby. you're gonna hear an MC say that shit to you 9 out 10 shows.especially if i'm on the mic.

And this practice has always stuck in my craw. Did Miles Davis have to cajole people to make some "fucking noise"? No. That badass and his genius sidemen just fucking killed it on their instruments and sent mad pleasure (I'm assuming here; I never saw him live, but have heard plenty of live Miles recordings) shooting through his audiences' heads. And he turned his back on the crowd. Damn.

Jazz ain't hiphop, you counter? Granted, but if musicians got the skills, they should be able to provoke the response they so earnestly desire without perpetually pleading for "fucking noise."

streets/ladyS = wiredCrackHedz

jazzCats = laidBackStoneHedz

diss is all simple mang...

that's just as bad as artists coming and shushing the audience. i hate that. we're not in school, we're in a bar, and if you wanted complete silence for your performance, you should have booked the symphony hall.

You hate that because you're obviously one of those obnoxious fucks that stands up close to the stage and talks loudly to your friends while other people are trying to enjoy the music. The city is full of bars that don't have live music, go talk about your new car or what your boyfriend's brother's boss said at one of those bars and let other people listen to the band.

Jazz ain't hiphop, you counter?

Wow. NWA shooting mad pleasure thru my head.

Why do I picture you with your eyebrow raised as you type this?

yes, they're different. they have their different rituals and roots.
Either way, it can grab you or not.

I take it Lady Sov didn't shoot mad pleasure thru your head?

Wow. NWA shooting mad pleasure thru my head.

Why do I picture you with your eyebrow raised as you type this?

Not the best choice of words, admittedly. But I was sincere with the sentiment.

Lady Sov was good--don't get me wrong. But incessant pleas to "make some fucking noise" from anybody will diminish my enjoyment. Once or twice during a performance I can tolerate, but dozens of times? That works my last nerve and it comes across as desperate—plus, it takes time away from the actual performance, which is what people paid (or scammed their way onto the guest) for. S'all I'm sayin'.

Make that "guest list."

Dave - I agree - it does get old. As someone who frequents Hiphop shows - and is very picky when it comes to Hiphop - for me its all about how an artist is LIVE.

If an artist has to ask lets say - more than 5 times during the entire set, to get your hands up - they arent doing their job - period. I have heard it a few ways that have insulted me - and remember, I am a Hiphop FANATIC :

"Get your muthafuckin hands in the air..."
"Get your fuckin hands up God damnit"
"If you muthafuckas don't get your hands up...theres the door"

All of those are just over board. And honestly - for a little tike with a pigtail on the side of her head to tell me to get my fuckin hands up over and over - *sigh* I am with you Dave - makes me alittle annoyed...

sho ya right. excessive shit like that is annoying to the most diehard of heads, and is often the crutch of non-show-rocking-ass MC's, from 50 to MC Bumblefuck. Sov hasn't seemed to have developed much of a rep as a dope performer, has she?

so how did skinner fare?

Skinner seemed a bit jet-lagged (he said as much) and was totally outclassed by his backup singer. The Streets weren't doing any of the shit I like off the first record, so I split after a half-dozen songs. Overall, it was kind of mediocre.
Skinner did manage a very nice stage dive, however—dude has hops.