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Monday, April 16, 2007

But How Will I Ever Decide?

posted by on April 16 at 11:28 AM

It’s a real shame (for someone) that this:

Live Nation welcomes Dave Matthews Band to the Gorge on Labor Day Weekend, Friday, August 31, Saturday, September 1, and Sunday, September 2, 2007 at 7:00 p.m.

Is the same weekend as this.

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Wu Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with, either.

Posted by Eric Grandy | April 16, 2007 11:43 AM

It's also a shame, Ari, you don't realize that you exist in a tiny niche counter culture (Seattle hipsters) just like the people you're making fun of (urban freaks). So, by attacking other folks on your little island of sovereignty in the ocean of corporate media culture, are you being a hypocrite *or* just an asshole?

How will I ever decide?

Posted by Blind Melon | April 16, 2007 4:50 PM

definitely both.

Posted by Ari Spool | April 16, 2007 4:58 PM

Yeah, because Dave Matthews totally exists outside of the "corporate media culture" and Burning Man actually changes something...


Posted by Eric Grandy | April 16, 2007 4:59 PM

It changed me

Posted by Paulus | April 16, 2007 5:03 PM

My apologies, Paulus. You are truly the king of the "urban freaks."

Posted by Eric Grandy | April 16, 2007 5:13 PM

what a sad, spiteful little world you live in, Eric.

Posted by diggum | April 16, 2007 10:23 PM

Eric, what. are. you. talking. about? The point is that Dave Matthews fans are more-or-less the same culture as you and Ari: American white counterculture. When Ari publicly derides them, it's like a punk kid picking on a goth kid – both kids look the same to everyone except themselves. But the punk kid looks like an asshole.

As for Burning Man, what it appears you're trying to say is that the event has no political or cultural influence. Uh, Eric... you're a hipster, which is possibly the most feckless, sullen and disengaged culture to have emerged in this country in the last 50 years. You accusing Burning Man of failing to make change is like the Republicans claiming the Democrats are simply engaging in political shenanigans.

Look, dude, we all know it's your job to be snarky, but best to direct that snark to the asswipes who deserve it. Not your analogues that make your job possible.

Posted by Blind Melon | April 17, 2007 12:54 AM

Don't worry about Eric, he has a thin skin and cries like a small child when people hate on things he likes. He's currently practicing yoga so that eventually he can suck his own penis, his self love not complete until this feat is accomplished.

Posted by P. | April 17, 2007 10:15 AM

Man, you hippies are hilarious when you're angry. Hope all this commenting doesn't take too much time away from working on your "art" cars.

Posted by Eric Grandy | April 17, 2007 10:21 AM

i will happily admit that im probably the only person in this forum whos been to both a dave matthews concert AND burning man. though about a decade apart.

BTW, eric and ari: ppl hating on burning man who have never been are as naive and foolish as people who denounce marijuana without ever trying it.

Posted by jz | April 17, 2007 10:34 AM

PWNED by hippies!

That's gotta hurt.


Posted by FTW! | April 17, 2007 10:39 AM

if you replace "marijuana" with "huffing paint" you come closer to my perspective, and the logic kind of falls apart...

Posted by Eric Grandy | April 17, 2007 10:53 AM

All I've learned is that burners and frat boys are TOUCHY!

Jeez, at least hipsters are self-deprecating.

Posted by ari Spool | April 17, 2007 10:58 AM

you could replace "marijuna" w self-mutilation or vegetarianism or snorting ants and the logic still holds: dismissing something out of hand that youve never tried leaves you w little credibility.

esp something that so many people enjoy. burners arent touchy, they actually BELIEVE in something, ari. its very easy to be self-deprecating if you dont.

what pisses me off is how goddam divisive this all is, esp coming from a certain segment of line outs editorial staff and its readership. its like fucking seventh grade over here. stop picking fights, its lazy and stupid.

Posted by jz | April 17, 2007 11:06 AM

Lazy? Stupid? Sure, but you forgot childish as well.

Posted by FTW! | April 17, 2007 11:14 AM

Wasn't Ari's post meant to provoke in the first place? Well congradulations Ari, what an accomplishment. Now you can get back to working on your beer belly and your retarded Rock and Roll Olympics videos. Eric...just wondering, do you spit or swallow?

Posted by Ain't life Grandy | April 17, 2007 12:50 PM

I swallow hippies and spit bile. I huff gas and build art cars. I believe in nothing.

Posted by Eric Grandy | April 17, 2007 1:04 PM

I have an idea.

Instead of arguing over the internet about stupid, self righteous "just sticking up for people" bullshit. Let's sit in a circle, and resurrect the ghost of Timothy Leary... who will be the only one possibly attending both Burning Man, and Dave.


p.s. Ari, and Eric, both of you could beat all of these bastards in any competition... ever.

Posted by Danniel | April 17, 2007 11:41 PM

Wow, even after reading the comments I'm *still* not exactly sure what the conflict is - or which half of the Burning man/Dave Mathews band statement by Ari was the sarcastic part.

My hipster card has obviously expired... and yeah, maybe I'm OK with being socially oblivious sometimes.

Posted by MadameHeather | April 18, 2007 2:37 PM

(at the absolutely f'in classic "you can't diss something without trying it" case study in MORONICS...)

that said, the thing i like about pot (vs. burningman) is that ya can typically smoke it sans ANY sorta worry that some nekkid, beer-bellied, honkey-perv on too much X is gonna cruise by and say "hey mang"...

jus' sayin'.


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