Line Out - Comments on This Has Been a Long Time Coming http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming And you thought I got pretty worked up over Jawbreaker yesterday? Well take a seat, my friend, because I'm about to open the floodgates. It could get ugly. Of all the records in the world, Energy is one of... Copyright 2008 Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:38:59 -0800 Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:57:49 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Dougsf I used to love them. Sadly, (to me) that record has aged very badly. I want to still love it every once in a while, but I'm actually almost embarrassed for it when I hear it.

Crimpshrine, however, will never dissapoint me.

]]> Dougsf http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691935 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691935 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:11:16 -0800 Comment by alithea 1: common rider > rancid
2: dance hall crashers > every other band lars and tim were ever involved in.

the end.

]]> alithea http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691956 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691956 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:47:04 -0800 Comment by alithea OH ALSO. common rider > op ivy. duh.

]]> alithea http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691957 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691957 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:47:39 -0800 Comment by seychelle how come you're the only one who gets to claim that a record changed your life? get over yourself. it happens to other people, too.

]]> seychelle http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691968 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691968 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:10:24 -0800 Comment by Andrew C. I love that reocrd. I remember Op Ivy was my first 7" and I had it on tape also. In the early 90's on the east side there was a smallish group of Redmond firehouse and ground zero kids who cut their teeth on this band (i think eric grandy can attest to that) you couldn't go anywhere where there was a show going on and not hear some young kid lie about going to see Op Ivy at Gilman. they always said, "my older sister took me". No one ever argued because Op Ivy was kind of a shared idea. Everyone wanted to see Op Ivy, so no one called anyone out. Op Ivy was truly unifing, and life changing. like devo or kraftwerk when i was littler.

]]> Andrew C. http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691974 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691974 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:24:08 -0800 Comment by Postureduck The sound system always _does_ bring me back up.

]]> Postureduck http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691980 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691980 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:27:31 -0800 Comment by Dougsf I never got to see Op Ivy live either, but had an ex that grew up in that scene who also shared a love for those records who assured me they were nothing short of horrible live.

Ah well, I still have some great memories of listening to them - I just can't get it out any more.

More posts Megan, what else you got!

P.S. NoFX is the opposite of Jawbreaker NS Op Ivy, kinda an either/or thing... but then my thinking on this hasn't matured much since I was 19 years old, so I hate to put it out there.

]]> Dougsf http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691992 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c691992 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:44:37 -0800 Comment by Dylan I remember listening to a cassette copy of a cassette copy of my best friend's older brother's copy of this my freshman year and having my head completely rearranged. Still classic, still life-changing.

]]> Dylan http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692027 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692027 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:20:41 -0800 Comment by alithea #4: are you on drugs?

]]> alithea http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692042 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692042 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:34:36 -0800 Comment by seychelle #9: usually.

seling says: "...people always claim 'This record/band/song changed my life' and really, it probably didn’t. That’s just their exaggerated way of saying it’s really important to them. But for me, Op Ivy really did change things."

just sayin, what makes her opinions so special?

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Calm down, kiddo.

]]> Megan Seling http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692056 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692056 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:51:59 -0800 Comment by Megan Seling Also, Alithea, I completely disagree with you. But I still think you're lovely.

]]> Megan Seling http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692057 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692057 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:53:02 -0800 Comment by The_Pope_Of_Chili_Town East Bay Punk Rock two days in a row? When did Line Out turn into my Spokane Washington early 90’s High School Happy Place?

Op Ivy was pure awesomeness (not as good as Jawbreaker, but still awesomeness). Some of their shine was probably rubbed off by the myriad 3rd Wave ska bands of the 90's that followed, but they were able to mix ska and real "fuck you up if you get in my way" punk better than anyone else. To a kid in high school what they were saying and how they said it was completely new and exciting.

Also I'll agree with Alithea that Common Rider was the balls (at least the first album) but must strongly disagree that DHC was better than Op Ivy or even Rancid.

And hey, seychelle, eat a dick. Megan did a better job of explaining this, but, if you couldn't figure that she was just trying to point out the term "changed my life" is overused, you should sit in on a 5th Grade Reading Comprehension class.

]]> The_Pope_Of_Chili_Town http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692079 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692079 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:21:12 -0800 Comment by seychelle megan, i understand what you're trying to say. you just sound stuck-up when you're saying it.

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12: i know. my opinions on music never earn me any credibility, except in the forms of long lectures from mike park. :/

]]> alithea http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692090 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692090 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:26:09 -0800 Comment by The_Pope_Of_Chili_Town 15- I understand. I too am a fan of "the skas," and have some firmly held beliefs.

On that note however, I happened to catch Mephaskaphales on the radio today playing "Doomsday." I hadn't heard that song in years and remembered kind of liking it. I was wrong. It flat out sucked. Hard.

]]> The_Pope_Of_Chili_Town http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692110 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692110 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:49:35 -0800 Comment by Superfurry Animal Though of, I think, a different era than Ms. Seling, I completely concur. Op Ivy rules, still. As do the Dance Hall Crashers, at least their early stuff. Personal favorite Op Ivy song: "Hoboken"

@16: Holy crap you are correct. Just the other day I popped in that Mephiskapheles record and was like, "Um, these songs are too long. And repetitive. And ... uninspired. And I like the 'Bumblebee Tuna' song, but it's TOO FUCKING LONG."

Still LOVE The Pietasters' "Oolooloo," tho; that one's also a classic.

]]> Superfurry Animal http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692147 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692147 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:32:20 -0800 Comment by jkjk I'm starting to wonder how many of you people I hung out with in Spokane in the nineties. Off to listen to some jawbreaker.

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This all sounds like I'm speaking in the most vague terms, but Spokan-wise, you might actually be piecing together what I'm talking about.

]]> Dougsf http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692208 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692208 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:42:38 -0800 Comment by Eric Grandy "Hayes broke the scissors, apologized."

]]> Eric Grandy http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692218 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692218 Album Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:03:55 -0800 Comment by gillsans I guess we get our news a day late here in Spokane.

Yeah, every time I hear "it's 1989 stand up and take a look around" I think; holy shit, that was 18 years ago! It's still one of my all time favorite albums though. Holds up a hell of a lot better than most of the shit I listened to in high school. However, Dance Hall Crashers sucked in 1990, and still suck today though.

I've got more ska cds from the 90s than any person should and the only stuff I still lsiten to is ooolooloo, Hepcat's Right on Time, and pretty much the Slackers' entire catalog (anybody hear Peculiar? It kicks ass.).

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]]> Andrew C. http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692330 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692330 Album Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:26:47 -0800 Comment by gillsans Andrew, It's from West Bay Invitational if I remember correctly.

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]]> Andrew C. http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692346 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692346 Album Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:47:36 -0800 Comment by Dougsf Crap, now I have to finish the album in my head.

]]> Dougsf http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692387 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/04/this_has_been_a_long_time_coming#c692387 Album Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:25:25 -0800 Comment by ..... Joke time!:

What do you call a Werewolf that likes ska?

A: An idiot!!!

ahahahahaha

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