Line Out - Comments on What A Strange Idea http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea From RK in the comments of yesterday's Croc post: There are already rumors of a co-op effort to buy it and keep it running. We'll see if it happens, but if it does, count me in for 50-100K (yeah exactly,... Copyright 2008 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:05:45 -0800 Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:58:43 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Eric Grandy Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it the city of Green Bay, not a co-op of fans, that bought the packers? If so, the obvious rejoinder would be that the city of Seattle already bought a music venue—the Vera Project.

]]> Eric Grandy http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876215 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876215 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:11:45 -0800 Comment by Ari Spool Green Bay is owned by a cooperative of fans. They have 11,000 stockholders!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers

]]> Ari Spool http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876226 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876226 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:15:28 -0800 Comment by Ari Spool Dang it, I forgot a zero. Please make tha 110,000 fans!

]]> Ari Spool http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876228 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876228 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:16:25 -0800 Comment by Eric Grandy Oh, wow. I had no idea. That may be the coolest thing in football. I can't see it happening for a venue/club, though.

]]> Eric Grandy http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876286 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876286 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:41:35 -0800 Comment by Nathaniel If there really is a sincere effort to do this, I can put 5 grand on the table. I can be emailed at godsactionfigure@gmail.com

]]> Nathaniel http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876307 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876307 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:47:25 -0800 Comment by josh I hope that these rumors turn out to be true. I've been starting / spreading them as much as possible.

for what it's worth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers#Public_company

]]> josh http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876320 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876320 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:51:20 -0800 Comment by Jason Josephes I'm not sure if it would work either. The only thing the 110,000 shareholders of the Packers care about is winning. Plus, it's all Green Bay has. Hell, it's their whole fucking identity.

If you had a large group of people all owning a club, there would probably be plenty of debate over many issues like bands, food menu, policies, prices, etc. Plus, that part of town ain't exactly renting for cheap and while the Croc sits closed, other venues -- yes, there are still other places to play in this city -- will be picking up the slack.

]]> Jason Josephes http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876377 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876377 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:29:24 -0800 Comment by aaa If the Blue Moon Tavern is the alternative to playing at the Crocodile - I'm leaving this town.

Fucking buy a sound system and maybe ONE stage light if you want bands to play your CLUB! They SELL liquor for you!!!

]]> aaa http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876384 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876384 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:34:29 -0800 Comment by Jason Josephes There are several alternatives to the Crocodile. The Stranger's club listings can point you in the right direction.

]]> Jason Josephes http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876406 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876406 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:52:50 -0800 Comment by WE Mike The Blue Moon rules!

]]> WE Mike http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876520 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876520 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:51:51 -0800 Comment by lick before you leap Before we jump in with NFL-type ownership ideas: can anyone verify if 1) the business of the Croc is even officially for sale or if 2) the lease on the property is available?

I heard it's been a month-to-month lease there. For all we know 1) the property has been sold or 2) the Croc as a business has been sold.

Making all these fun ideas rather moot.

]]> lick before you leap http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876525 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876525 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:53:15 -0800 Comment by Ari Spool #11: Update coming soon. Quick answers to the second phrasings in your comment: 1) No. 2) Not yet. But it will be for sale.

]]> Ari Spool http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876571 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876571 Business Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:17:22 -0800 Comment by Strath Someone at Three Imaginary Girls posted a rumor that Jack Endino is buying it. Probably a rumor (?) but that would be amazing.

]]> Strath http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876876 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876876 Business Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:28:10 -0800 Comment by noel This isn't a fully-thought-out idea but...

If non-profits exist that rais millions of dollars for symphonic music, folk music, any music but rock music, why can't we have a rock nonprofit.

I mean, we have VERA... what an interesting test of the system to found a nonprofit for the preservation of the Seattle rock tradition?

Maybe not using the Crocodile as a test subject, but if you DID have cooperative ownership, if it was under the nonprofit model, at least you would have a mission and bylaws to keep everyone on track...Maybe rifle through the KEXP mission for clues...

]]> noel http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876895 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876895 Business Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:25:56 -0800 Comment by Jason Josephes We're moving through the five stages of grief quickly. Denial, anger, and now bargaining. Up next? Depression.

]]> Jason Josephes http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876904 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876904 Business Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:42:17 -0800 Comment by Matt The Crocodile is for sale for $495k and there is a new 10 year lease. http://www.johnlscott.com/propertydetail.aspx?GroupID=55809452&ListingID=31232536&Sort=0

]]> Matt http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876977 http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/12/what_a_strange_idea#c876977 Business Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:58:43 -0800