Shit Talk Internet Beef
posted by on January 3 at 10:15 AM
In my column this week about highly-successful Blue Scholars marathon the Program I got a little glib, hyperbolic even, about Seattle’s hip hop message-board beef:
According to a source, there was a fight backstage. Smack talk posted on message board 206Proof between the “Wake Up and Smell the Hiphop” T-shirt guys and Saturday Knights MC Barfly grew into a confrontation; Barfly reportedly landed several punches. Only in Seattle, or maybe Microsoft’s Redmond campus, would a real, fist-fighting hiphop beef come from some message-board bullshit.
Now, I’ve got message-board bullshit of my own. (Raindrop Hustla has the pictorial version here.)
The main point of contention from Barfly himself:
If you’re gonna get into the topic of hiphop and internet beef, you don’t act like it’s some uniquely Seattle phenomenon. You reference Vordul Megallah getting his jaw broke by Will High over El-P’s online taunts. You bring up Okayplayer’s history and Ras Kass and The Game and Yukmouth. You can bullshit your way through it with some “internet beef is typical nerdy Seattle” cliche because it speaks to the prejudices of people who still read print media but it’s not very astute.
So, yeah. This kind of thing isn’t at all specific to Seattle. I was exaggerating to poke fun at how typically passive-aggressive and nerdy, how typically Seattle, is the phenomenon of internet beef. But it doesn’t just happen here, and it certainly doesn’t just happen in hip hop. If the joke bombed, chalk it up as a misfire. No biggie. Mostly I just think it’s funny/sad when shit escalates from html (or just talk) to fisticuffs. (So let’s, you know, keep this one online-only, okay, Barfly?)
Oh the wigger got whacked - that shirt and slogan really need to be reconsidered - just stupid.
Love the Blue Scholars, love the sound, love the messages, love the NW themes. And that Saturday Knights EP is just unbelievable. I defy anyone to listen to that and not think that Seattle hip hop is going to be massive. The system is just so clogged with the same unlistenable crap that it's taking time to be huge, but it is going to be huge or there is positively something wrong with hip hop.
Something wrong with hip hop?
Is there anything right with hip hop?
lol @ vordul getting his jaw broken.
internet beef is the worst, i like how that messageboard string features a series of veiled threats from a series of veiled posters hiding behind avatars. honestly, when i read this article yesterday, i thought hip-hop fans would be the least likely to start messageboard hating (if anything, indie fans should be salty, i'm just saying).
...and indie hip-hop wonders why it has problems with press coverage! learn to take a complement.
i like how no one on the stranger staff (and particularly grandy) seem to have the ability to apologize for anything they write. it's always construed, in some follow-up, as someone else misinterpreting what was written.
can anyone at the stranger admit fault, or stand behind what they write? apparently not.
No way, Grandy! You're goin' down! We settle this the old fashioned way...speed reading, puppet show, staring contest, macrame, whatever, you name it. I'm there!
OK, look, you guys. I spazzed. I know it. It happens.
I woke up around 4pm, still pretty hammered. Seeing my name in print eclipsed the entire focus of the article. Slow to action, cool headed intellectual that I am, I elected to forego reflection and immediately vented on the message board I frequent.
After I read the article again later I saw it for what it was and figured I need to just take my lumps about the whole affair and relax.
You reported it the way it went down, Eric. I got into it with a couple dudes over some shit one of them said on a message board. That's what happened. I just felt so dorky and embarassed reading that about myself.
Barfly: The internet message board nerd thug.
Great.
Don't tase me, Barfly!
SOYGNH
We make Gods-eyes at the Arts & Crafts tent, high noon. Biggest gods-eye wins.
Popiscle sticks and yarn are the only way anything gets resolved in Bartertown.
headline this time next year:
Grandy Destroys Local Hiphop:
Line Out Commenters Stoked
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