there are points to agree about (like jane's addiction were not incredibly talented or revolutionary), but i have to disagree with the fans spoiling the music. it's unfair to criticize a band by who likes it. what mainstream band is safe from that? mad idiots listened to every band at woodstock, every yo mtv raps! single, or every o.c. soundtrack inclusion - that doesn't make their music any worse.
there are 99 other things to criticize jane's addiction for (dude, pornos for pyros - what the fuck? dave navarro was a joke by the time of this reunion tour too), but not their fans.
...although feel free to make fun of their fans.
I agree, Cosby, but I'm gonna up the ante: Porno for Pyros had some really good stuff. I saw them live and they were great. There, I said it.
And yes, Jane's Addiction were totally my jam in 10th grade, blah blah blah. In this day and age (or even in 1998), trying to make sure you only listen to music that other cool people listen to (or at least that no lame people listen to) is a very sad way to go through life.
AHAHA so many quotation marks!!! seriously, we never let him write anything, the stranger shouldnt either ;)
ps Ari ... Takes you back to when exactly? Werent you like 12 when this went down? :D
Is Nipper a Richard Meltzer fan?
Holy hell Nipper, that's a funny write-up, almost strate outt of 1987's "Border Radio" except more annoying. Kool; you a Knitters fan?
ha ha ha... release the Kraken!
levislade, sorry but as an admitted PfP fan you would been swiftly bounced from my halfpipe as there were no squares and no dirt bikes allowed...bro. I guess we're not close enough to what '80s underground MEANT for the punters to GET what crap like JA and their fans represented (even as I kinda spelled it out! um, tuff, coked up rednecks + faggy, drunk on vodka goths = beat the fuck up goths)...and my attitude is/was certainly not a matter of MY coolness as JA were THE "cool" band, and obviously not being a fan, I was not "cool." Tho' it's awful that someone might go through life trying to only listen to cool music, like rednecks, they shoulda stuck to their White Lion, Bon Jovi and left JA alone, at least then alter-nerds coulda kept something sacred...as they didn't keep nothing shocking!
good lord, nipper--ISSUES. issues well beyond janes addiction or "goths" or "geeks" or any of that, CLEARLY. thats your baggage and you gotta unpack it. also, your grammar is FUNNY.
HOWEVER, i will say that the first lollapalooza festival is the first concert i attended on my own and it did indeed "change my life." for various reasons, not all of which have to do w perry farrell or janes addiction.
ALSO i will tell you about seeing porno for pyros on a WHOLE BUNCH of "acid" and watching a "bozo"-like clown man walk onstage, remove his mask, and begin CUTTING HIS FACE with a straigh razor. it was INSANE and INSANELY AWESOME at the same time.
JZ, can I skate your halfpipe? Oh, wait . . . I don't skate either. Never mind.
Only dickheads refer to this band as "Jane's".
Nipper's the only person who's ever written a bout music for the Stranger that I've understood a word of. Well, Kurt Reighley a little, and Everett True. But Nipper KNOWS. And he reviewed a Free Design record. I'd take 30 seconds of that over all the Perry F. efforts ever recorded from here to eternity.
Hey Nipper,
Remember that time we were sitting on the flat of your ramp at dusk, lightly strumming "Jane Says" on your Ovation. I wept a bit, and then we made a pact to never cut our bangs. It was all so magical until those dudes pulled up in the black Monte Carlo and poured my peach Bartles & James all over my INXS "Kick" t-shirt.
Remember? Me neither.
Gads, Nipper, that takes me back! Good shit.
'member that one time we were breakdancing? Those were the days.
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