Where'd you get that? These kids need to send me a calendar for live/dj.
Oh awesome, The Funhouse has relocated to capitol hill! the line up looks like the table of contents for Disheveled Magazine, BAD!
Again, why are people hating on a locally-owned club opening on Capitol Hill, while crying out the otherside of their mouth when the Croc closes?
Jeff - its because Eric Grandy is a little emo bitch, plain and simple. PS: your little sister needs her jeans back.
No, catboy, it's because this blog favors indie rock, electronica and hip hop, and isn't overly fond of metal. Which is how many of the readers like it, thus angst over the Croc closing and dismay that King Cobra is going to be a metal club, which actually was totally obvious from the start, despite the bs press releases they put out. So just deal with it or go somewhere else. Somewhere where your tedious juvenile grudge-holding underage metalhead whining about EG in particular and indie music in general might actually have an audience. Because that place isn't here.
I think it's great that there's another music venue on the hill that features rock n roll bands. The Comet has been holding down the fort for far too long. I'm stoked that King Cobra has opened up and I look forward to playing there.
Wait.. wasn't Eric promoting King Cobra? Bobcat, you sound like an angry lil dude.
I get it: Girl pants are for girls! Thanks for setting my 32-inch-waist ass straight, Bobcat.
The Stranger needs to fire Eric Grandy, and replace him with someone like Mamma Casserole as the new Music Editor. Anybody with me here? Let's get an online petition going to fire this idiot(and not just for the King Cobra slanders either, but all the other bullshit since he's been in charge over there).
Hmmm... Ok I'm missing what's inflammatory about Eric's post THIS time. Settle down Bobcat - reposting the line-up is not a bad thing. I say this as someone who really, really does not like Eric Grandy.
Yeah, what the fuck? This reads more like a promotion, not a slander, unless you don't want the Stranger to promote events on the line out for the King Cobra. Put your personal differences aside.
Why would a DJ be against another rock venue?
Oh wait ...
No, Danaan, I vote YOU. I want you to be music editor. And Bobcatty to be your assistant editor. The world of music journalism would be saved.
out of the woodwork hater post generator:
[business] needs to fire [notable employee] and replace him with [inscrutable employee of completely different business in a completely different industry]. anybody with me here?
How did Eric Grandy get pulled into this?
I was the person who had something Negative to say about the line up. Not Grandy.
I think it was a stretch to pull him in he wasnt talking shit.
I was just pointing out that I think the lineup is lame for a opening weekend! And i like Metal, but come on! that lineup is fuckin cheesy! Just like disheveled magazine was. Theres lots of great heavy bands in this town and on capitol hill, if they want that club to succeed as place to see shows the need to step up the overall taste level, their sticking to close to their old Kin Cora regulars taste. There was a reason that bar was empty a lot of the time.
I for one am looking forward to seeing the heavier end of the music spectrum played through a good sound system in a great room. The King Cobra can only make Capitol Hill a better place for music.
I don't like to pigeonhole myself by identifying with one kind of music anyway and a variety of places to see bands, DJs and whatever bring us the tunes is nothing but goodness.
Thanks for putting up the schedule! I look forward to more informational posts. That said, don't forget to check out my band that plays the evening of March 1st! The Valkyries have a new singer and you WON'T wanna miss it!
Eric's post wasn't negative, and we really appreciate him giving us some virtual ink in the sandbox.
That said, I'm surprised at the "we don't like your kind" comment posted by RK. Dang, I've lived on Capitol Hill for the greater part of 20 years. I fell in love with this neighborhood as a teenager because it was THE place for the rock and punk types to hang out, in a neighborhood that celebrates diversity. Lighten up - it's rock and roll, not an Outsiders rumble scene between the Socs and Greasers. :)
Anyway, for the rest of your dissection, feel free to check out more of our upcoming calendar beyond the grand opening weekend. It's currently posted on our blog at www.kingcobraseattle.com.
Stay gold Ponyboy, and make rock not war. xo
PS - Visqueen is my favorite metal band ever! :)
And for more hot metal action... ;)
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FACT: It makes karmic sense for the King Cobra to give opening weekend shows to the bands who were patronizing Kinkora's back in the day. Who do you think gave the owner's the money for this fine club?
FACT: Eric Grandy has given more media attention and spotlight to A CLUB THAT FOCUSES ON MUSIC THAT HE HATES, then any writer for The Stranger ever, ever, has. What else can he do to show he wants to support the scene? Even if it might not be music that excites him? I still don't believe that Eric has written one negative word about the club.
FACT: There are actually quite a few hip-hop shows in the works at King Cobra. I'm trying to bring Yukmouth in there myself. The King Cobra is actually going to have a far more diverse music line-up than you think.
FACT: Disheveled magazine was the first magazine to highlight the Saturday Knights. How awesome is that?
THEORY: If I get to have my way, I would bring DJ Recess and the whole shameless crew in there and flex King Cobra's awesome sound system.
THEORY: I predict that the King Cobra is going to become "KING OF LOCAL MUSIC" in the club scene. And that's because they offer better deals on the venue than any club I've worked with. (Which is all of them.) They made Seattle Semi-Pro wrestling an offer they couldn't refuse, and successfully wooed them away from the Re-bar.
FACT: The King Cobra will be hosting Seattle Semi-Pro Wrestling's 5th year anniversary show. That nite happens to be one of the Re-bar's crown jewels. It's not going to be just "The Funhouse on the hill." (Which would be an awesome thing, btw.)
Hey, Jeff. I DJ maybe once or twice a month. My bread and butter comes not from that but from the Stranger. If I have an opinion about a venue, a band, a dance night, or whatever you can be sure it's my honest opinion and not some circuitous conspiracy to weed out competition for my hobbyist DJing.
Hey, I don't care if you play metal and nothing but metal at King Cobra. The more live music venues in town, the better. But your first booker Jason claimed that the club would be "bringing in local and national acts of just about every variety, from hiphop to indie rock, and working with established local bookers to keep things diverse". So is that still true? Was it ever?
And yeah, @ 20 and 22: Who said "rock" needs to be segregated from other music?
I wouldn't work at the Stranger ever.
Not for even a chance to hose out all the sand in "rk"s vagina.
Duly noted, Bobcat. Although, vagina-sand hosing was going to be part of what I thought was a pretty generous job offer. Oh well, I guess we'll move on down the list and call Mama Casserole instead.
Hey Trent Morman-
My problem with Eric Grandy & The Stranger of late, is not just because of the whole KIng Cobra debacle that he started originally, but also due to not even mentioning or reporting on alot of shows that fall into the Rock/Psych/Garage/Punk/Metal, etc. categories to begin with. Shows at The Comet, and elsewhere as well. I'm talking for instance about about amazing psych bands booked by Mamma Casserole as one example, usually bands playing to a packed house. What did The Stranger have to say for one of those night's events listings? Nothing, and I don't mean just forgetting to mention that show, I mean the best they could come up with was to write: "blah blah blah blah..." or something like that from what I remember. Come on guys you can do better than that, and I know the event was submitted to the calendar listings in time. Is The Stranger trying to be Vice magazine now or something? WTF? I'm not just a fan of Rock oriented music, I like other types of music too, but I think the way in which Eric is demonstrating his biases(not the fact that he has them) is unprofessional, and not serving the communty's best interest.
I don't get why you're so upset, Bobcat. Everything Grandy put in this post is EXACTLY QUOTED from the King Cobra website:
But you know, I'm sure the employees of a venue never look at it's own site.
So the rock and roll club is now the music "alternative." Sweet!
RK, you're referencing old news from a statement made before we even got a coat of paint up in the place. A more accurate summary was posted on this very blog in late January. Ahh, remember the fun of those 72 comments debating the club's booking prowess...
"What is also true is that there isn't a place like King Cobra on Capitol Hill, and we hope, and think, that we're putting together a club that will be a great home for rock and roll in the neighborhood. Mamma Casserole books amazing shows at The Comet but the room size is limited for bringing in national touring bands. Neumos & Chop Suey have thrived on their diversity, and that's great.
King Cobra wants to rock, and we will, focusing on supporting rock & roll...and punk, and metal, on both local and national levels. If that's not your thing, then cool - there's other places you can go...."
Now, let me get back to booking more shows for you to criticize. :)
PS - I'm willing to take a part-time job as a vagina de-sander if it comes with health insurance. :)
it does seem interesting that someone with a personal interest in the club (as dj/webmaster/?????) is the one saber-rattling the loudest (and for what exactly, because "rock and roll" was in bold?) and pretending there is some sort of king cobra v. stranger war (ooh, maybe the seattle weekly will blog about it!). that is one way to get asses in the seats.
Book more bands and DJs that specialize in boot-pants music and you are in!
Boot-pants! Boot-pants! Boot-pants!
nice speculation sam, but i just call bullshit as i see it.
And the shit is pretty deep here in Lineout - got to go get the waders
Look around, Bobcat. The shitty quagmire you mentioned is not that of the Stranger... Your slanderous teasing and big talk reminds me of high school. I started going to rock clubs to get away from people that act way.
How many times must it be said? If you don't like Eric Grandy, or the Stranger, or Line Out, or anything/anyone associated, stop reading.
"My problem with Eric Grandy & The Stranger of late... due to not even mentioning or reporting on alot of shows that fall into the Rock/Psych/Garage/Punk/Metal, etc. categories to begin with."
When has The Stranger ever covered these sub-genres of rock very much? For a while when Jennifer was music editor, sure, but that's about it. And that's because it was the music she loved. I don't think you should expect a publication to cover the music you love and be pissed when they don't. Start your own newspaper, magazine, zine, blog or try to get a job at the Stranger or Weekly and cover it yourself. That's DIY. That's in the true spirit of rock'n'roll.
Personally, I think y'all need to give a new club a chance to make it's own way AND stop whining about Grandy in every thread. I've been to King Cobra a few times and DJed there once, every time it's been packed and fun, so obviously there was room on the hill for a new rock'n'roll club. Shouldn't we be excited about a new locally owned venue in the wake of the Croc's closing and the two Showbox venues going corporate? Hell yes. And it's even better that this one kicks all kinds of ass.
can we work out a comprimise? what if the Stranger fired Megan Seling and then everyone agreed to shut up about Eric until he actually does something geniunely idiotic/malicious again?
oh, and let me reiterate: the hipster/rocker thing was a joke. all the dudes in Emeralds wear Cheap Mondays. let's shut up about who we think hates what kind of music and everyone go see my band play at the Funhouse tomorrow (since the Stranger never gives ink to decent hardcore shows anymore).
Jets vs. the Sharks man!
might i suggest a "Eric Grandy v.s BOBCAT" charity boxing match. Presented by King Cobra and The Stranger. All proceeds could go to childrens hospital. Bobcat kicks some asshole's ass and the kids get a little money. Everyones a winner :)
Rumble behind Dicks at the stroke of midnight - no guns or knives, but nunchucks are ok though. Loser gets drenched in $50 worth of those five cent onion accoutrements. Eighties gear mandatory so dust off your Duran Duran 'Seven and the Ragged Tiger' shirt and Fila Parachute pants. Lord Mix-a-lots first album shalt be blasted from a JcPenney 8 track beat box as well.
something about 'dicks' and 'stroke' in the same line.. yeah man, yeah
PS: I can't wait for the ear-shattering nitro burning heavy freakin' metal blast-beats coming from the drummer of Blackie on friday too!
PPS: If you think thats metal wait until Quadrillion melt your collective faces off.
How about Grandy kicks some ass hole's ass, and the money goes to charity? That's more like it.
The rumble at dick's is a great idea, but Grandy will be far too busy strokin' DICK'S and slurpin' special sauce at his favorite hang-out NEIGHBOURS down the street. As I hear it,he's the main attraction at the aids socket/glory hole :)
I get it: You hate gay people! Ha ha, what will you ca-razy "rockers" come up with next?
@ 37: I had a similar idea earlier, but mine was baby oil throwdown at Block Party. But Megan Seling vetoed, so it's her bad.
Strokin' dicks for special sauce-hahahaaa
fight fight fight (punch chanting)
I can smell a fight in the making. how bout the loser has to pick up 100 hot dogs off the dirty sidewalk with their butt cheeks at the block party. and all proceeds go to a good charity :)
wow, all these comments add up to exactly NOTHING
not psyched about those bands, tho. except visqueen. soft spot.
3 inches of blood!!!!will dominate!!!!!!!! ndrwmtsn is a fool and doesnt know shit!!!!
3 inches of blood should be a good show...i agree with the viking man!!!
I haven't seen Eric say anything negative about King Cobra, but the fact that he outed an all ages venue and got it shut down.Along with writing about an illegal after hours club in the paper wich likely led to all the police heat that made them shut down pisses me off.Way to ruin the the best new things going last summer DJ Fuckin' Indiscreet.Someone needs to give you an ethics lesson you rat.
yeah, Eric is pretty much a turd! I think calling him a rat is putting it mildy.He's just being a baby cuz he is a crappy d.j and he cant get no play at the cobra. what a turd.
Eric seams very biased towards the way he reviews certain types of music. He can't objectify beyond
his personal taste. To have him publish his opinions on rock music or venues is retarded because they get a thumbs down right out the gate. He has made his mind up before even experienced the event. He only needs to fill in the details. Unfortunately he tries to flex his viewpoint out of his comfort zone and by voicing his opinion he damages bands and venues. And yes he wears girls pants.
I'm excited for another rock club on the Hill. I love the Funhouse. I love local hardcore and metal. Everyone go see Lee's band (that would be Same-Sex Dictator) tomorrow night at the Funhouse.
"Eric seams very biased towards the way he reviews certain types of music."
I can't believe I'm defending Grandy again, but when I was a music editor, I really had a hard time writing about indie rock and indie pop because I found 95% of it really boring. I wanted to cover the music I liked, real rock'n'roll like punk, stoner rock, hardcore, rockabilly, garage rock, etc. I don't think there is anything in the music editor rulebook that says you need to be objective. Objective writing, especially about music, usually is no fun to read. I want to read passion. Some of the best music writers in rock history were the most opinionated subjective bastards you'd ever meet, that's in part what made their writing so interesting. If I were to give any advice to Eric it would be don't write outside your comfort zone by trying to cover stuff you aren't interested in, because everyone knows it's half-assed. Instead be an editor, cultivate a talented group of writers that love the genres/scenes you don't (like I did with my man Lar when I was music editor for Tablet until The Stranger wooed him away). And fuck, in this town, throw a rock and you can't help but hit a rabid fan of heavy rock, punk, etc. that can write.
@48. losing atlas definitely was a bummer. but atlas was sending press releases to the stranger. that means they wanted coverage. and didn't someone representing atlas write in to the stranger absolving grandy of the situation?
as awesome as it was for someone to book all ages shows on the hill, i'm not even sure if atlas really warrants martyr status. i had friends' bands from out of town book shows there and roll up to the shop the day of only to have the staff say they knew nothing about them playing. And this wasn't an isolated incindent; it happened on at least two different nights that i know of. shortly after the whole Stranger debacle i went by the store to see if they'd put up a silk-screened poster for the Old Firehouse's 15 year anniversary show. the girl working at the counter said they no longer put up fliers in their window. a week later they had fliers for the Black Lips "secret" 21+ cha cha show. i'm not saying this to dish out more negativity in a forum that already seems to be more interested in tearing people down than giving people props, but because there are a handful of people out there that really seem more concerned with having a scapegoat than acknowledging that secret illegal shows can really only operate for so long, especially if they're not covering all their bases. but hey, good for atlas for trying. wish i'd been in town for that pissed jeans/tiny vipers show.
if everyone is so gung ho on the all ages scene, why aren't more people using the comment option to talk about the Fusion Cafe, Vera, the OFH, Seattle DIY, the Ground Zero, KTUB, or any of the houses and spaces doing cool shit instead of anonymously slagging someone for doing their job? if everyone is so concerned with what's NOT being talked about in the Stranger, why are they wasting their time here complaining about it instead of taking cues from Dan at 10things and operating their own blog?
ahhh shut the hell up bubbles. people like ragging on each other. thats what us humans do!!! now you too can go and hose out your smelly vagina.
Being that "home for rock-n-roll" is bolded obviously sets a sarcastic and dare I say "passive-aggressive" tone all so typical of Seattle. Everyone sees what's going on here. Seattle is not really a rock/metal town.
Just let us have our fun and enjoy our music.
More rock, less blog.
I love eric grandy
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