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Wednesday, May 7, 2008

Poll: Waive or No Waive?

posted by on May 7 at 12:05 PM

According to several people who were at the show, King Cobra waived the cover charge last Friday when the place was empty. By night’s end, the room was full. They passed a hat around so the bands could make some money. From yesterday’s comments on Payout: The Split:

wave.jpgWhen the first band started the place was pretty empty so the club waived the cover charge. By the end of the night the club was full. All those folks were buying lots of drinks. The bands had to “pass the hat” to raise money. When confronted the club said the bands were lucky to get the $$ from the passing of the hat. Bullshit move by King Cobra.

Statement from King Cobra booker, Jason Rothman:

We did in fact pay the bands at the end of the night. It is true they passed the hat too, but I PERSONALLY gave the lead singer of Blackie (a blondie tribute band) $100. Now that is far from a windfall, but it is definately $100 more than anyone would have received if the club owners did not do something to get people in there.

If you have any question about how we treat bands ask Neon Nights,
 Emeralds,
 Brent Amaker & the Rodeo,
 Tennis Pro,
 Iceage Cobra, the Whore Moans,
 the Greatest Hits,
the Cute Lepers,
 Strong Killings,
 the Pharmacy,
 or the Pleasureboaters
 to name a few. I am willing to bet they will tell you a much different story about how they were treated. All we were trying to do was create a situation so bands could (and in fact did) get paid.


Update interview of Jason and owner Che Sabado. They said:

From 8 to 10:30 there were no paid customers. By 10:45 we were sending employees home. Those are employees who lost wages. It was a terrible night numbers wise. We waived the cover and tried to make the best out of a bad situation.

Which room would you rather play?

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1

The king cobra sucks and there staff sucks.
by far worst bar on the hill. if your not getting molested by that nazi women security guard, you're weaving through the last remaining "i've dressed like a member of motley crue way before it was cool" crowd. i give the place til December and it will be gone.
how was the candlebox show, btw?

Posted by waiting for bobcat to freakout | May 7, 2008 12:18 PM
2

I want to squash this right now.
The show bombed. There is no doubt about that. But we did in fact pay the bands at the end of the night. It is true they passed the hat too, but I PERSONALLY gave the lead singer of Blackie (a blondie tribute band) $100. Now that is far from a windfall, but it is definately $100 more than anyone would have received if the club owners did not do something to get people in there.

This whole post is irresponsible journalism, because you Trent Moorman did not get the facts before posting. If you have any question about how we treat bands ask:
Neon Nights
Emeralds
Brent Amacker & the Rodeo
Tennis Pro
Iceage Cobra
The Whore Moans
The Greatest Hits
The Cute Lepers
Strong Killings
The Pharmacy
The Pleasureboaters
just ot name a few. I am willing to bet they will tell you a much different story about how they were treated.
The bottom line is we are all either musicians, music fans, or both.
Trent, if you want investigate how our club runs, I am offering you full access.
All we were trying to do was create a situation so bands could (and in fact did) get paid.

In the future, why don't you ask us for a comment. That is what journalists do.

Sincerely,

Jason Rothman
co-booker
King Cobra

Posted by Jason Rothman King Cobra Booker | May 7, 2008 12:35 PM
3

"Last weekend, King Cobra made the decision to waive the cover charge to increase attendance and bar sales, so there would be money to pay the bands... and a crowd to play to."

I played that show. It was a little sparse in the beginning, but they came eventually, as our crowd ALWAYS DOES. We sent a touring band, whose bassist was in the fucking Dead Kennedys no less, away with the money from the hat. A TOURING band! We didn't care if we made a penny - the touring band needed that money. BTW, since the show was free, did the 15 who paid get their money back?

"The door guy was pulled at 10:45 after 15 people paid to get in. At the end of the night, bands left early or were offered gas money, and the bar lost it's ass in sales... and house costs."
Lost its ass in sales, huh? Let's see the books. Do you think losing their ass had anything to do with our crowd knowing what happened at the door? What about the $150 made at the door? Did that go to pay the goon squad? Also, why was there a goon squad - it was a powerepop/new wave show.

If they had kept the doors there, the club would have had at least $2000 to pay out. Everyone wins.

Furthermore, the bands left early because the management told the singer of the headline act "You were lucky to get that $XXX. Take your $XXX and get the fuck out of my club!" I saw the whole thing go down.

Posted by from other post | May 7, 2008 12:43 PM
4

Trent - Responsible journalism involves getting the facts from both sides, then posting a non bias article derived from those facts. Did you do either? Once again, the hack 'reporters' from Seattles shittiest self-fellacting free paper shine through.

Instead of posting cute little anonymous names like the cowards you are, why don't you ask your mom(s) for the station wagon car keys and get out of your basement tonight to come talk to us in person? Sorry you'll have to put your great World Of Warcraft mission to the mines of Moria to retrieve the scepter of disenchantment for a bit.

Posted by bobcat | May 7, 2008 12:58 PM
5

Did Moorman actually print any of these "irresponsible allegations?" Or was all that posted by posters in an anonymous forum?

I'm looking back through these posts and can't find any unchecked facts on the part of the actual journalist. The writer of the post can't really be held responsible for fact-checking everything stated by anonymous commentors.


Posted by flamingbanjo | May 7, 2008 1:12 PM
6

That whole place just smells of bad times. I think they are having so many problems just because it seems like its run by a bunch of thugs. That was fine at Kin Cora, that place smelled like urine and the crowd was into it. But this place needs to cater to a larger more diverse crowd to be successful. I suggest they relocate to tacoma in 1987.

Posted by goon squad | May 7, 2008 1:19 PM
7

"I saw the whole thing go down." = bullshit facts and really fucking childish to wait 5 days later to drag their dirty laundry out in public.

I think that along the lines in that song that goes:

"Heard it from a friend who Heard it from a friend who Heard it from another you been messin around"

Posted by bobcat | May 7, 2008 1:19 PM
8

Bobcat,

It's not in dispute as to whether the cover was waived, is it?

I've been trying to get in touch with Jason.

I posted a quote from the comments and I say it's from the comments.

I think King Cobra is a great club. I've said only good things about it previously.

And I think the poll sides with the club, because I think most people would want to play to a full room.

Posted by trent moorman | May 7, 2008 1:20 PM
9

they why did you post un-speculated hearsay without talking to him? He answers the phone right away.

We all know the uber-cool people don't show up until 11pm on weekends anyways to shows. If the opening band got sand in their vagina because no one showed up, then they should headline, play better or try harder to get people in the door to listen to them.

It amazes me how some bands just sit back and except people to show up. Maybe like, one myspace post the day of. You need to overpromote your shit, no one else is going to do it. Waiting for someone to make a flier? Make one yourself. Jeez its not that hard. If you are passionate about your band you need to market it as such.

Posted by bobcat | May 7, 2008 1:24 PM
10

sorry about the grammar, where's the 'edit' button when you need it?

Posted by bobcat | May 7, 2008 1:28 PM
11

Trent,

I called your phone and it went straight to voicemail. I left my number with The Stranger, so get it from them... or check your voicemail.

Waiting on the edge of my seat...

Posted by Jason Rothman King Cobra Booker | May 7, 2008 1:33 PM
12

As someone who has performed at King Cobra, I just wanted to stick up for the venue, and say that:

King Cobra has paid me better than most venues. They've treated me with more respect for my art than anybody. King Cobra has given me more exposure than anybody.

That's why you can read an interview with me in this week's issue of Seattle Weekly. That's why Seattle Semi-Pro Wrestling is at the front of The Stranger's video section. (Check it out!)

Heck! That's why I'm moving my monthly to King Cobra. Because they offered more than the Re-bar, and proved it. I can't honestly think of a better place to perform if you're a veteran act looking to be treated what you're worth.

Why do you think that Jackie Hell is also doing a monthly there?

Posted by godsactionfigure | May 7, 2008 1:39 PM
13

Bobcat,

Were the bands asked if it was ok to waive the cover fee? Were they consulted?

Posted by cute anonymous name | May 7, 2008 1:59 PM
14

hey get back online and cover my back i'm being rushed by kobolds in the Fortress of Lament!!!!!!

Posted by ever cuter anonymous name | May 7, 2008 2:15 PM
15

The real problem is that all you hipster assholes are a bunch of cheap bastards and spoiled babies. You want everything to be handed to you and if you do have to pay a few bucks to go see a band, you just stand around with your arms folded. As a musician and artist, I know how hard it is to make thngs happen. There are so many things to to juggle and then we get these vultures with no talent who come out make the scene suck. Shame on you, all of you cheap, superficial hipsters. YOU are ruining what is good. Pay your fucking cover and show some respect and heart for other people's creations. Or- grow up and move to Bellvue. Go get a tech job. Come back and buy a condo and tear down this flea circus. That seems to be the current trend anyway, hipster.
King Cobra is at least trying to put something different in this hood. Maybe it's not all great but at lest they are trying. This neighborhood is just one big Starbuck's trying to act like it's Indie. I hate you hipsters so much.

Posted by Raw Knee | May 7, 2008 2:16 PM
16

In response to #1:

The Candlebox show was great.
The band sounded amazing.
It was our first sold out show, and we could have sold out two nights just as easily.
We raised over $8000 in ticket sales alone for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society.
King Cobra would thanks the promoter and the band for a great experience.

This was our third benefit show in the first 3 months.

Posted by kc | May 7, 2008 2:30 PM
17

Whatever happened to the idea of just lowering the cover? Win/win anybody?

Posted by Chuck | May 7, 2008 2:31 PM
18

It's a double edge sword, no bar sales=no money for rent, payroll, bills. You also have to remember that bartenders make the bulk of their income on tips no people=no tips and a bunch of pissed off employees.I have to say that the bobcat hit the nail on the head 1 myspace bulletin does not equal promotion. The band should be working as hard as the club to get people in the door.I have had a couple shows where the bands have made a big chunk of change, because they promoted the hell out of it.I have also shut the door down and kicked money to the bands usually I consult with them, but in the end it the clubs call. I have also not closed the door down because the bands had some unreasonable amount that they wanted in lieu of the door. I am lucky in that my bar is small so my overhead is considerably less than a club of King Cobra's size but for every "packed" night there are 4 other shitty ones. Bands also have to realize that even if a bar is packed doesn't mean they are drinking I have had a full house and given out more water than sold beer. Which leads to another point, my profit margin at best is %25 so if I do $2000 in sales I get $500, I pay the booker and sound guy I am out $175.00 so I now get to walk with $325 not bad but it doesn't happen every night and I still have to pay my rent at home, bills,etc. Sorry about the long post but I understand where Che's coming from....

-Ed The Bit Saloon

Posted by Thebitsaloon | May 7, 2008 2:33 PM
19

Oh yeah that Candlebox show was a benefit, awesome! Even though I personally dont care for the band, that is real nice of them to come out and raise money for a good cause.

I had a benefit for Marginal Way last month as well and raised over 1000 dollars. They just poured in a new section monday. I just took cell phone photos of it here: http://www.sleestak.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=44129#44129

anyway, back on track a big NO THANKS to The Stranger for not even mentioning either of these events and continuing with boring ass blogs about peeing on each other and cheesy eurocontests from 6 years back.

Posted by bobcat | May 7, 2008 2:45 PM
20

Bobcat,

I did a preview of the Saturday night Brent Amaker show, did you see that? I guess not. The Stranger writes lots about King Cobra.

I had totally supported the club and always talked you guys up. Guess I'm an asshole, huh? I will write no more about King Cobra. Please tell Che and Jason I'm sorry.

You've bitched enough here today. Go bitch somewhere else.

Posted by trent moorman | May 7, 2008 3:01 PM
21

hey Trent, i'm just sticking up for my friends and things I believe in. Thats all. Come by and i'll buy you a beer.

Posted by bobcat | May 7, 2008 3:07 PM
22

Bobcat,

Remind me NEVER to have you do PR for anything.

Posted by Club Owner | May 7, 2008 3:09 PM
23

"Whatever happened to the idea of just lowering the cover? Win/win anybody?"

At least in our case that's up to the bands. We don't set the cover or take any of it. I will say that I have had quite a few people bitch about having to pay to drink, so the bands need to start educating the fans about where the cover goes. None of it hits my pocket. For a generation the supposedly supports the arts people like to bitch allot about cover charges. I guess I'm different in that I paid the OK Hotel and other venues thousands of dollars in door covers over the years and got to see some rad ass bands for $3-5.00.

Posted by thebitsaloon | May 7, 2008 3:13 PM
24

"Club Owner" - remind me of your "club" name so I can not go there.

love and Hershey kisses,
J

Posted by bobcat | May 7, 2008 3:16 PM
25

I love it when these comment sections get all in the face. Leave trent alone. Can't we all just get along? No Ok, Its meat for all you'all then. Look out.

Posted by drheavy | May 7, 2008 4:01 PM
26

From being there a few times, talking to bands AND the folks running the place I can say everyone is trying to do right. Bands DO get a little anxious about getting paid cause it's their "livelihood" and all, playin music in front of people. THANK a club promoter or club owner some time instead. I would NEVER be one because it is thankless as all hell...

Posted by A Dude | May 7, 2008 4:02 PM
27

I don't dress like I was in Motley Crue in the 80s, but I have had nothing but good times at this club.

Cap hill needs more dirty rock venues. Squash this bad blood now. Trent, do the right thing!

Posted by Jeff | May 7, 2008 4:08 PM
28

The band should be working as hard as the club to get people in the door.I have had a couple shows where the bands have made a big chunk of change, because they promoted the hell out of it.

I'd love to see a concrete list of what "promoting the hell out of it" constitutes, since in ten years I've never found anyone who could give better examples than 1) Put up 500 posters so that Poster Giant can cover them up within 24 hours, 2) let your mailing list know (ignoring the typical 1% response for direct mailings to anyone not sharing rent with or related to a band member) and 3) TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!!

Most clubs consider their end of the "promotion" effort to be a tiny fragment of an ad in the Stranger and the Weekly. Thanks guys!

Posted by Tiktok | May 7, 2008 4:10 PM
29

I'm not originally from Seattle and love living here. One thing I have noticed is that people are way to quick to bash on other peoples idea or efforts. I don't know if it makes that person fell better like they are superior or in the know. Its just sad that people can't be more supportive of each other when consider the fact that we all enjoy going to live music venues and clubs.

Posted by Superferret | May 7, 2008 4:40 PM
30

Wow...people just like to dig and throw shit...Maybe there is a lesson to be learned by all Instead of pointing fingers. Most people know the bar does not even fill up till at least 10:45-11. Thats just when people leave. Why not start the first band at 10:30...and go from there. As for the Stranger...Be fuckin glad to have a rag like them around. Not many cities are that lucky

Posted by Rastaj | May 7, 2008 4:43 PM
31

Yea...superiority complexes are big here...Get used to it.

Posted by rastaj | May 7, 2008 4:46 PM
32

Bars fill up around 11PM because people are hoping they've missed at least one of the opening acts. Most people don't like to sit through mediocre acts they've never heard of and time their entrance accordingly.

Posted by Tiktok | May 7, 2008 4:54 PM
33

consummate professional, that moorman.

says he "will write no more about King Cobra."

do Stranger music writers have the option of pissily ignoring anyone who arouses their ire by having the NERVE to call into question an anonymously sourced report (from blog comments, no less!)

then he follows it up with one of his trademark inane polls.

truly the nadir of stranger music writing, that moorman.

Posted by bing | May 7, 2008 5:29 PM
34

It would be nice to see IP addresses on the posts.

Would be interesting to see how many anonymous posts map to The Strangers external one.

Posted by bobcat | May 7, 2008 5:39 PM
35

I can't believe how much negative crap the stranger has published about King Cobra, I also can't believe that King Cobra is still advertising with them. Time to rethink the Ad pack that I got last week.

Posted by thebitsaloon | May 7, 2008 6:04 PM
36

How much negative crap HAS the Stranger published about King Cobra? Seems it's coming from posters on the blog.

Posted by huh? | May 7, 2008 6:14 PM
37

i really wanted to keep my mouth shut on this, especially since post regarding King Cobra are always so volatile. but...

what exactly did moorman do wrong? he reposted a comment regarding an incident from friday and asked for readers' opinions on it. And 85% of the readership side with King Cobra. i don't blame moorman for not wanting to write about the club anymore, because apparently some people think Stranger contributors have nothing better to do than subvert a local business through that heinous act of -gasp- giving them press.

to be fair, bands do need to realize that they have to do their share of promotion. print fliers, post news online, tell your friends, etc. the world does not owe musicians a living. but you are owed what you are guaranteed, and that amount should reflect the number of people that come through the door. if you don't get a financial agreement beforehand, you are basically saying that you don't expect to get paid. bands, you don't need to be a dick about it, just ask what the expenses are and what cut of the door you'll receive. and get it in writing. it doesn't sound like their was any formal arrangement for payments that night, so it seems unnecessary for anyone to get bent out of shape over the situation.

@34 bobcat, which posts do you think are actually posted anonymously by Stranger staff members? the comments left by people claiming to have played the show? those seem to be the only really accusatory comments. what possible motivation would anyone involved in reporting on music and nightlife have for clandestinely slagging a local club when, as moorman has pointed out, he's chosen to write favorably of the place? why bash a club when the paper is just as dependent on having things to write about as the club is dependent on having people write about them?

and finally
@15 if you're reading this, you're a hipster in someone's eyes. and that's regardless of whether you're wearing an Iron&Wine shirt or an Iron Maiden shirt.

Posted by brian cook | May 7, 2008 6:49 PM
38

I hate all of you cuntz!!!!! every single fucking one of you. quit acting like internet cry-babies and comit suicide you bunch of pukes!!!! better yet settle it like real men and have a go at fist-a-cuffs and end it!!!!! fucktards!!!!!!!!

Posted by turd furguson | May 7, 2008 6:54 PM
39

I agree with turd!!! i am going to go and put a warming pad on my lower back and then try to suck my own baby sized prick. I bobcat Jason Harrison am the original fake/phoney metal hipster guy. By the way I am from bellevue and i realy do try to suck my own dick

Posted by bobcat | May 7, 2008 6:58 PM
40

Wow totally cool I suck my own dick too

Posted by oneshot jonny | May 7, 2008 7:19 PM
41

BC, you don't have to do that, let alone give us the mental imagery. all I ask is that you stop posting bulletins on Myspace anytime the Stranger says anything slightly critical of King Cobra. you owe me 15 minutes of my life I will never get back, to once again read a basic non-issue that concerns exactly no one in the real world. you have once again made me care about things that don't concern me in the slightest. I like King Cobra a lot. I liked playing there. I liked the fact that we were even able to get some door money from that benefit show, since we were playing out of town that weekend. but I think the club has a few details it really needs to hammer out and soon. the security there is uncomfortable to say the least, the promotion of events is confusing and some of the acts they book are a fucking joke (yeah, I know Candlebox was a benefit, but it was painful to know that happened there).

anyway, keep the freakouts to the Line Out, stop trying to drag other people with things to do into these petty sqabbles. let's get drunk this weekend.

Posted by Lee | May 7, 2008 7:27 PM
42

Lee i didn't type that. Pretty funny that someone would take the time out to write something that stupid though!

As for the other concerns (Brian, Lee etc), the original post was edited bigtime. It was created out of speculation from an anonymous posting in another thread. Trent did follow up eventually, but it is just lame to see people post up shit with nothing to back it up with.

Posted by the real bobcat | May 7, 2008 7:59 PM
43

lee....if we cross paths i am gonna seriously slap you like a bitch!! im not fooling with you anymore mutherfucker. your ass is mine shithead. choke on a dick you fucking geek!!!! your going to the hospital BIGTIME!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by the real BoBcAT | May 7, 2008 8:07 PM
44


$150 - sound
$50 - door guy
5% gross door - sales tax
$200-350 security depending on the night
$62 PA
10% commission

Does it still take 87 paying customers to break even at King Cobra, or have they changed their door split in the last couple of months?

Posted by Pussy-ass local musician. | May 7, 2008 8:41 PM
45

$200-350 for SECURITY? The BAND gets charged for SECURITY? What the fuck? Are bands routinely attacked onstage at King Cobra, or is this the venue offloading its insurance charges on the bands?

Please be fucking off already.

For that sort of "security" charge, I want the assurance that I can leave all my gear and money backstage, unattended except for the "security" guys.

Posted by Tiktok | May 7, 2008 10:12 PM
46

Bing, my brave, good, and consummate friend bing,

Thank you for making a comment, from the bottom of my heart.

Posted by trent moorman | May 8, 2008 9:23 AM
47

Wow Bobcat! Really did they not change the blog in mid circulation? Because that is journalistically wrong and something that happens quit a bit with the Stranger I've come to notice with the whole Thomas Street Bistro crap and then them giving the Weekly shit for covering it.

Not to mention what they did to the poor club attempts at Atlas Clothing, SHIT!

You ask why these businesses still advertise with the Stranger, BECAUSE THEY ARE SCARED!

The Stranger lies! They sit up in their little Value Village loft lying to people, and treating people like shit if they don't advertise. It's like a mini mafia!

Seattle's Only Newspaper, HAH! More like Seattle's fresh from college campus trash bin. You're a media source, BE PREPARED TO ACCEPT SOME CRITICISM!

Sadly the second you receive an criticism you snuff it up quick or retaliate with a vengeance giving you the reputation of a red-headed step child! Which is exactly how you should be treated.

Posted by Abigail | May 8, 2008 9:31 AM
48

First off as a former promoter I know all to well that it takes more than one myspace bulletin and the adoring handful of groupies... it takes some skills, flyers; reputation; ads; posters; word of mouth; myspace; and talking about it none stop...not just the day of!

I can't help but roll my eyes at #30.
Lucky? Really? Sorry, I don't buy that!

The Weekly has all the good writers from the Stranger's past: Hannah Levins; Aja Pecknold; and of course Brian Barr!

The Seattle Sound is more focused on local music than The Stranger and is unpretentious about it...yes, it can be done!

I don't feel lucky to have a paper that condemns so many of my favorite places and friend's businesses and then calls them up to advertise right afterwards, WOW! It's called tact! You sling someone through the mud you don't ask them to borrow a couple of bucks afterwards.

King Cobra has been nothing but amazing! Their staff has been sweet as pie. Jason, Chey, Jamie, Bobcat and Dawn have been putting their hearts into this they've been on the hill longer than most of the new trendy belltown insurgence, remember a little place that we all loved called, Kincora's? These are the guys! Balls to the wall badasses, cut them some slack they just saw their pride and joy demolished and turned into a parking lot, A FUCKING PARKING LOT!

And for security... I'm sorry boys and girls, but have you not been listening to the news? Have you not been hearing about the shootings and the crime that's been rearing it's ugly face in our humble neighborhood? Keep the security, I'll take it if it helps my friend's bands keep their equipment and prevents crackheads from stealing their drums, then I'm all for it. The security is always good natured and they don't cause a scene or take their jobs lightly by trying to act out like some bars.

My point being leave King Cobra alone you're alienating your readers by not giving them the full facts... Oh and Trent you don't have to talk about not writing anything bad about the Cobra, your music editor does that fine all by himself. I seem to recall another blog where he was questioning the bookers ability to book shows, WITHOUT EVEN TALKING TO THEM. This isn't wikipedia you can't just pull something out of your ass and call it truth you have to go to the source, that's what journalism is... I mean I knot they don't teach you that at Devry or whatever high school you dropped out of to look cool, but yah... just do your homework.

-Lil Jen!

Posted by Lil Jen (Disheveled Reader) | May 8, 2008 9:44 AM
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48 - "I mean I knot they don't teach you that at Devry or whatever high school you dropped out of." - Nice. Just sayin.

And hold on, Moorman didn't condemn anything. He's written only good things about the place.

The original post stated that they had waived the cover and passed a hat, which guess what, nobody disputed. He pulled a quote from the comments, and said it was from the comments. Within like an hour, he had interviewed Jason and got his statement.

This is a blog, it's not print journalism. He got Jason's side of the story and went on to say King Cobra is a great club.

Bobcat kept bashing him. At some point, would you not react? Of course not, you're perfect. You feel nothing. Of all the people to bash, you're bashing the wrong guy.

Posted by money | May 8, 2008 10:19 AM
50

I kept making a point because he OBVIOUSLY DIDNT GET THE MEMO. I dont EVEN WORK for King Cobra nor am I on the payroll. I help out where I can, which is what 90% of you lazy ass motherfuckers should be doing rather than typing about shit you know nothing about.

and that's really cute whoever typed 43

Posted by bobcat | May 8, 2008 11:00 AM
51

This is all so alien to me. $150 for a soundguy? I do sound AND book the shows at the Blue Moon -- since we don't charge a cover, I don't even make half of that a night. The bands get paid a cut of the bar, I get an hourly wage, and everyone gets in free. That's some low overhead right there. More bars should follow suit.

Posted by Jason Josephes | May 8, 2008 11:06 AM
52

Pretty sure as "Seattle's Only Newspaper" your site YOUR ENTIRE SITE should be based on journalistic integrity including the slog. As you have an active voice in the community could easily say something was libel as your site garnishes the same users as your Web site and that this is a part of your newspaper's site as shown in the Web address. Your blog is an extension of your paper!

-Jen.

Posted by Lil Jen (Disheveled Reader) | May 8, 2008 12:19 PM
53

Time to blow the whistle here.

I think both parties suck. Both of you should grow up and apologize to each other. YOU'RE BOTH IN THE WRONG.

Jason from King Cobra, you gave a really whiney response to the article. You need to wash the sand out of your vagina and realize that Line Out is primarily a *GOSSIP* site. Trent did the courtesy of saying he hadn't initially gotten a hold of you yet, so you shouldn't have started hurling insults at the jump.

Line Out constantly gives updates, RE's, and part 2's to many of their articles they post. YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT. Shrieking "irresponsible journalism" is pretty classless. Let Bobcat handle your hysterics.

Trent Moorman, shame on you for letting deadline pressure overhype a comment for the sake of a story. Did you really have to make a story out of a rumour without calling the guy? Sure this is gossip, but that was borderline malicious. Definitely mean-spirited.

All you had to do was be an adult, and apologize for accidentally ruffling his feathers. Maybe post an update on it. Instead you responded like a petulant child who wants to take his ball back home because he fouled playing the game.

Both of you should just apologize to each other. Both of you guys work under an intense amount of pressure. Both of you don't get respected enough for what you do.

Posted by Naked Referee! | May 8, 2008 2:24 PM
54

I am currently sucking my own dick and typing at the same time :)

Posted by BoBcAt | May 8, 2008 4:22 PM
55

I am currently enjoying the chode that keeps posting shit as me, like the above post.

Posted by bobcat | May 9, 2008 10:32 AM
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Look JASON! First of all my fucking name is DEJHA not "The lead singer of Blackie" Second, you only gave me $95 dollars at the end of the night because I told you how I felt about the bullshit you pulled on everyone that played that night, paid that night, AND Jenny Bendel! I would have made more money blowing some motherfucker in an alley, which is what I felt my band's performance and all else was worth to you by the end of the evening. A sloppy cheap blow job! Who the hell are you anyways? I had never met you before that night nor even seen your smug face. I didn't want to be a part of this bullshit banter because I quite honestly don't give a rat's dick about the money (at this point) nor do I ever plan on performing at your venue or supporting any shows that roll through it. I do however feel that the truth must be told about what went down that night Mr. "get your shit and get the fuck out of my club"! Yes those were his exact words after I played a basically free show to a full house of my fellow friends and Blondie fans, all who consumed much alcohol in three short hours. You should be ASHAMED of yourself for slandering Jenny's name. She, as I explained that night, has always supported and promoted local and touring artists (dare I use that term? Clearly you have no respect for Artists) moreover she continues to maintain integrity under even this petty, unprofessional scrutiny. The only thing that the King Cobra reps did right that night was buy me and my friend a fucking cocktail at the end of the night...and even that was like pulling teeth. Shame on you.

Posted by Dejha Colantuono | May 12, 2008 10:12 PM

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