Line Out - Comments on Tonight in Music: Zizek Urban Beats Club, Joseph Arthur, Earlimart, Bullet for My Valentine

Comment by Dagmar

Dagmar — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:40:59 -0800

And Judas Priest.

Comment by bobcat

bobcat — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:33:49 -0800

um, dont forget judus fucking priest.

Comment by bunnypuncher

bunnypuncher — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:34:15 -0800

I just wanted to mention how much I LOVED Brian's preview for the Bullet For My Valentine show. It really made my day.

Comment by Tom

Tom — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:16:21 -0800

You do know they are from Wales, right?...They have nothing to do with the American hardcore scene. You don't even have the genre right. Try again.

The show kicked ass by the way. Too bad you weren't there. Then again you probably would have been flattened so I guess it all worked out for you.

Comment by brian cook

brian cook — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:35:59 -0800

@4
you're absolutely right. they have absolutely nothing to do with hardcore (american or european) from a sonic perspective. hence my description of them as mainstream trash. however, they have been marketed to the hardcore audience. this is evident in their debut american release coming out on Trustkill Records (an american hardcore label), though it was actually financed by a major label. it's also evident in their choice of support acts: Bleeding Through and Cancer Bats. both acts are hardcore bands (or, at least categorized as such by their publicists). so while you're correct that they are not an american hardcore band, you completely missed the point. like so many other post-nu-metal bands, they're trying to cash in on any loud rock market that still has a shred of credibility. it's pretty offensive to see cock-rock bands like BFMV and Avenged Sevenfold use the hardcore scene's network to establish a fanbase when it's so obvious that they have no actual affiliation to it. it's even more depressing that people buy into it.

on a side note, when did "american" enter the equation? are you trying to argue that europe and the uk didn't have viable hardcore scenes? ever heard of Discharge? geography wasn't the point of the article. rather, i was trying to highlight the sad reality of boring bands cashing in on the blood and sweat of pioneering artists.