Friday, November 14, 2008

Re: A-G-A-I-N

Posted by Dean Fawkes on Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:46 PM

Transmetropolitan's The Smiler

Matthew Marcus write in the comments.

Point of order, though: Tony Blair only ascended to power in 1997, and contrary to *some* revisionist histories it took more than five minutes for the public to become disaffected with New Labour

Tony Blair won the general election in 1997, but he became New Labour's party leader in 1994. It seemed like a big deal at the time, something in the wind, but are we exaggerating our memories? While it also may have taken a little longer for the general public's attitude to turn on Blair's government — not really until the Iraq war — the mood in pop-culture, from Mike Leigh to "Transmetropolitan" to Noel Gallagher, was of relatively quick lesser-of-evils disenchantment.

Keekee writes.

Isn't it funny how Blur started to sound like certain American music after 'Parklife'?

Blur definitely went all Pavement after the collapse of Britpop, and I remember 1997's Blur being taken as either a necessary shift of style or a cultural betrayal by a lot of fans, causing a lot of arguments, but that's, of course, a separate story, not a contradiction.

Brandon writes.

There was also this little thing called 'rave' that was pretty awesome, too.

It's true, but there's also that period in-between the comedown of Madchester/acid house in the early '90s and mid-'90s Britpop, which was filled with your Pop Will Eat Itself and Carter: The Unstoppable Sex Machine — not to take anything away from them — before suede changed everything. Britpop is also often seen as one of rave's after-shocks, holding a lot of its same political and musical attitudes, but, in a way, picking up the optimistic torch and finishing the job.

BONUS: Munch on a clip of the DJ from the "Undeclared" pilot mixing straight, East-Coast thug hip-hop with Britpop. Go on.

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all this britpop talk and politics and drugs, good for ya. but years before i heard of this blog, we had a nice little community at Yahoo Seattle Pop. It included myself, fnarf, indiepagesdotcom, Stephanie Pure, etc etc etc, all of which was curated by Mike Applestein, writer of the amazing encyclopedic fanzine Caught in Flux.

this writer 'linda', whom i met a time or two, was also amazingly dedicated, as you can plainly see in this post of hers. you at the Stange, who get paid to wax over this shit....it's just plainly obvious...

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/sea…

i think it was my suggestion near the end of the post to call the Britpop night "English Rose," but i could be wrong. Also, please give me a name in the credits if you decide to take the song I spent months writing (i'm so vain). The one time I performed it at 2nd Ave Pizza open-mic night went over pretty well. I met a nice older lesbian woman who was selling her fanzine of poems that night.

Ahhhh, 2nd Ave Pizza - my one and only art (as in framed visualizations) show, 3 great people who ran it - S. Robb, Steel Pole Bathtub and Feminist Baseball. I met Corianton for the first time there, at my opening. Chris from Tullycraft designed and built the funky counter. Great eats and a good place to catch a punk-who-gives-a-fuck-type-of-show. Ok, See ya Seattle's Only Newspaper.

Linda, here's to ya, START!
Posted by gry mklsk on November 14, 2008 at 11:38 PM
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WAIT!!! is that Matt Marcus from Spittsburgh? last i heard you were in arizona MFA? thanks again for producing our cassette (i still have it and recently burned to cd). Reissue the Kafka Romance Dissolver!!!
Posted by gry mklsk on November 15, 2008 at 7:04 AM
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I like Blur and Parklife, and I lived in Britain in 1994 when it came out (I was 12) - my parents are English but I was raised mostly in the US. I don't think the UK in 94 and the US today draw any parallels - the UK's economy was in broad expansion mode for the first time in years and unemployment was down. In fact, the thing people love to ignore (especially among people my age I meet at parties who love to argue about what they do not know while drunk) is that the economic policy of the UK transitioned in consensus. New Labour would be like Clinton admitting outwardly that he is a New Democrat and that the Republicans were right on free trade. They didn't sell anyone out until the Iraq War - that was unconscionable, but mind you, the Tories were the main opponents. In the 90's, people simply got tired of tabloid scandals and seeing the same old frumpy Tories running the country - almost 20 years of tea cosy Middle England ideals were crushed instantly with a string of scandals. All that Tony Blair did to raise anyone's hopes was to instill competence and technocratic application of what was mostly policy begun under Thatcher.

And I don't think it's fair to call Thatcher "mean", especially when you look at the past 8 years. Matthew Marcus made it sound like it was Pinochet or something - it was nothing like that. Thatcher was one of a handful of MP's to vote for decriminaliz(s)ing gay sex back in the 60's. And I don't want to speak for Blur themselves, but I do believe they all grew up in middle class circumstances, certainly not from the Wirral and Staffordshire like my extended family. I suppose maybe people aren't aware of it over here in the US, but things were so crazy in British politics in the 80's. Had I been a voter, I would probably have voted SPD or Liberal but Conservative a close second - Labour was pretty much unfit to run the country for most of the 80's. I don't think anyone, liberal or not, wants 80% tax rates.

The UK's "shake up", similar to our recent election, was in 1979. If people thought the rust belt and the 70's and 80's were bad here, they were much worse in the UK.

So there was no shaking up like there is right now - I imagine that Blair was barely on the mind of anyone until after 1995 (although even I remember being taken by his extremely pensive and sympathetic accent and manner of speech)

The pessimism in Parklife would have happened regardless. If you're not from the small minority that sends their children to Eton or lives in towns like Elstree or the Chalfonts or anywhere in Buckinghamshire, you likely had spent the last decade affected in some way by the decline of the economy, and neither right nor left had managed to solve it. Americanization and the general post-modern malaise, millenial apathy, and the secret fondness of London, all of that is something universally shared all over the developed world.
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Posted by matthew rutledge on November 15, 2008 at 8:37 AM
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Whatever happened to Suede?
Posted by Keekee on November 15, 2008 at 10:46 AM
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Suede had to change their name to Suede UK.then the guitarist(Bernard Butler) got fired. He and the singer Bret got back together as The Tears and have released an album or 2.
Posted by dr stravinsky on November 16, 2008 at 12:37 PM
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Butler may not have much time for original music making since becoming a top producer and session player: the Verve, Duffy, Sons and Daughters, Black Kids, etc.
Posted by K.C. Fennessy on November 17, 2008 at 11:52 AM

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