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Thursday, December 4, 2008
Album Use Your Illusion 1 & 2 vs Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness
Posted by Eric Grandy on Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Both are double albums. Both have one red disc and one blue disc. Both featured fairly epic, big-budget "event" videos (insert joke re: MTV used to play videos, lulz). Both are the last arguably great works of their respective egomaniacal, perfectionist frontmen before they each went different streaks of self-indulgently insane. In different stages of my adolescence, I repped hard for both of these opuses. I think I'd only rep for Melon Collie these days (although I will never get tired of watching Axl swim with the dolphins...)
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Mellon Collie wins, I haven't listened to it in what 8 years? A decade? But I still think I could make it through the 2nd disc on any given day and not bust out laughing. Not so for UYO.
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Thats easy, neither.
If you folks keep giving the time of day to GNR or the SP it's time to give up on writing about music.
If you folks keep giving the time of day to GNR or the SP it's time to give up on writing about music.
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It's hard to find melon collie fans that were born before 1980. Now and when it came out. Even people I've talked to who love Siamese Dream or Gish will quickly dismiss it.
6
I've never lisented to either double-set as a whole, but I must admit that I enjoyed the singles off of "Use Your Illusion" better than "Melon Collie"'s.
That said, my fave Pumpkins material actually comes from their electro follow up to "Melon Collie." I feel like they should have chased that sound some more. I even enjoyed some of Zwan. How can you go wrong with Dave Pajo in your band?
Then again, I was born before 1980.
That said, my fave Pumpkins material actually comes from their electro follow up to "Melon Collie." I feel like they should have chased that sound some more. I even enjoyed some of Zwan. How can you go wrong with Dave Pajo in your band?
Then again, I was born before 1980.
7
Dude, I kinda like G-n-R and even I can't stand to listen to Use Your Illusion. To me, Chinese Democracy seems like Axl circling around to jump the shark tank one more time for old times' sake.
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i don't know if anyone else has thought of this, but i noticed this coincidental blueprint of los angeles bands:
successful debut album, genre redefining sound:
guns n' roses 'appetite for destruction'
rage against the machine 'rage against the machine'
quickly made, poorly received cash-in release:
guns n' roses 'gnr lies'
rage against the machine 'evil empire'
critically hailed, highly successful comeback that doesn't really stand the test of time:
guns n' roses 'use your illusion i + ii'
rage against the machine 'battle of los angeles'
horrible, unnecessary cover album:
guns n' roses 'the spaghetti incident'
rage against the machine 'renegades'
dogshit bad groups made from the remnants of the broken up bands minus the singer:
velvet revolver
audioslave
successful debut album, genre redefining sound:
guns n' roses 'appetite for destruction'
rage against the machine 'rage against the machine'
quickly made, poorly received cash-in release:
guns n' roses 'gnr lies'
rage against the machine 'evil empire'
critically hailed, highly successful comeback that doesn't really stand the test of time:
guns n' roses 'use your illusion i + ii'
rage against the machine 'battle of los angeles'
horrible, unnecessary cover album:
guns n' roses 'the spaghetti incident'
rage against the machine 'renegades'
dogshit bad groups made from the remnants of the broken up bands minus the singer:
velvet revolver
audioslave
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@10
Not Can's Tago Mago? Not the Minutemen's Double Nickels on the Dime? Not Miles Davis' Get Up With It?
Not Can's Tago Mago? Not the Minutemen's Double Nickels on the Dime? Not Miles Davis' Get Up With It?
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Not Bobby D's Blonde On Blonde? Not the Clash's London Calling?
For the record, I also thought SP's Adore was a more than suitable follow-up.
For the record, I also thought SP's Adore was a more than suitable follow-up.
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@8 - No love for Evil Empire?? I've always thought that was their best and I remember reading great reviews for it. Hilarious comparison though.
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I have never owned either double album, but if I were to choose to buy, say from a dollar bin, either of these it would be the Guns N'Roses. And I think my choice would be almost entirely due to generational factors (determining aesthetic preferences). And I am also aware that most of the UYI discs probably suck. But hell, I'd own "November Rain" and a couple of other good songs. Whereas SP always rubbed me wrong, wrong, wrong even before Jim D. crapped on Billy so well.
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