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Friday, August 21, 2009
Nightlife / Last Night / Photo This Is What a $10,000 Party Looks Like
Posted by Matt Hickey on Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Last night saw Havana's parking lot turned into a weird but cool facsimile of the 500 block of Pine Street from about three years ago. It was a party to remember how things used to be before the most fun block on Capitol Hill was demolished in favor of condos (though currently a parking lot). With the exception of the insane line (one bouncer and one door for hundreds and hundreds of people? Really?) the party was a success, with people dancing, drinking, having fun, and socializing, which is what used to happen on the 500. It was a little off-putting that by the end of the night the majority of the crowd were Belltown and Eastside types—the very people the block was bulldozed to make room for. Maybe they didn't understand the point of the party.
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real lame considering the bars owners weren't asked or contacted beforehand for permission to use their names and likenesses. For Jansport as well. What the fuck. How lame can it get? Now we know.
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Hey Jason, if you can't figure out the point of a party, then you are an idiot. As for me, I think th
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it's already a well known (and oft repeated) fact that Josephes is a idiot... i think you can find it in the FAQ section
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4: Well spoken.
5: Actually, we were this close to getting a banner ad pointing that out, but Dow Chemical retreated on their funding at the 11th hour. Lousy beatniks.
Anyhow, what was the point of the party?
5: Actually, we were this close to getting a banner ad pointing that out, but Dow Chemical retreated on their funding at the 11th hour. Lousy beatniks.
Anyhow, what was the point of the party?
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"It was a little off-putting that by the end of the night the majority of the crowd were Belltown and Eastside types—the very people the block was bulldozed to make room for. Maybe they didn't understand the point of the party."
1. Perhaps the event organizers should have limited the party-goers to those living within a, say, 10-block radius, (with proof of residence) who can also prove that they frequented 500 Pine establishments before the demolition.
2. I have a lot of friends who have lived on the Hill for many years who have also bought condos at Brix, Press and Braeburn and Trace. They wanted to stay in the hood, but grew out of living in the crap quality 60s-era hideous crackerbox apartment buildings that plague the Hill, and wanted at least a modicum of ownership over where they live. Not everyone who buys a condo on the Hill is a goon invading from, god forbid, another Seattle neighborhood.
1. Perhaps the event organizers should have limited the party-goers to those living within a, say, 10-block radius, (with proof of residence) who can also prove that they frequented 500 Pine establishments before the demolition.
2. I have a lot of friends who have lived on the Hill for many years who have also bought condos at Brix, Press and Braeburn and Trace. They wanted to stay in the hood, but grew out of living in the crap quality 60s-era hideous crackerbox apartment buildings that plague the Hill, and wanted at least a modicum of ownership over where they live. Not everyone who buys a condo on the Hill is a goon invading from, god forbid, another Seattle neighborhood.
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"It was a little off-putting that by the end of the night the majority of the crowd were Belltown and Eastside types—the very people the block was bulldozed to make room for. Maybe they didn't understand the point of the party."
So, if I'm not from this city I'm not wanted here? This comment sounds very "smalltowner".. Not everybody grew up in Capitol Hill (or Seattle) you know?
So, if I'm not from this city I'm not wanted here? This comment sounds very "smalltowner".. Not everybody grew up in Capitol Hill (or Seattle) you know?
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Sweet! The fella on the couch could be my doppelganger were I younger, cuter, skinnier, and more flavorfully dressed.
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@7 and @8: The majority of the people who live on Capitol Hill aren't condo owners. But developers keep building condos. A lot of the people who buy them move here because they like the neighborhood. The thing is, many (not all) of the condos that they're moving into are displacing (not destroying, always) the bars, restaurants, stores, bathhouses, clubs, taco trucks, and studios that give the neighborhood the character that they were attracted to in the first place. So, essentially, the people who are attracted to the neighborhood are destroying it by wanting to join in without thought as to what it means. And many of those people (yes, I'm stereotyping here) were at the party and having a really great time celebrating the memory of an important block that I doubt most of them had ever been to.
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And yet, as if by some sort of miracle, NEW bars and clubs and parties keep happening on the Hill. Imagine that! I would think with the condo invasion that the Hill would die like a flower plucked from the earth and dropped on a sidewalk - shriveled and dessicated. But somehow NEW INDEPENDENT LOCALLY-OWNED AND RUN places keep opening, and, miracle of miracles, MOST OF THE BARS FROM 500 PINE MOVED TO ANOTHER LOCATION ON THE HILL AND ARE THRIVING. I mean, it's just a fucking miracle!
Seriously, Matt. Get out of Seattle now and then. In "real" cities apartment ownership is the norm. In fact, having a modicum of ownership is beneficial. People pay property taxes which support city and county services. People invest in their building and neighborhood because they themselves have invested in it. It's actually a good thing. I'm not trying to slight renters by any means. Lord knows I was one for decades. But property ownership EVEN ON THE HILL is not some inherent evil.
And according to your explanation, there should be - what - a commission that determines whether people are worthy of being able to move to the Hill? Please, dude. If you can honestly tell me that you were here on the Hill in the 70s and 80s (as I was), or even before that (BEFORE ALL THE GAYS AND HIPSTERS STARTED MOVING IN AND DRIVING UP HOUSING COSTS, YOU FUCKWAD), then please just shut the fuck up. And seriously, you need to get out of Seattle now and then. Your provincial micro-neighborhood superiority complex is just not very becoming.
Seriously, Matt. Get out of Seattle now and then. In "real" cities apartment ownership is the norm. In fact, having a modicum of ownership is beneficial. People pay property taxes which support city and county services. People invest in their building and neighborhood because they themselves have invested in it. It's actually a good thing. I'm not trying to slight renters by any means. Lord knows I was one for decades. But property ownership EVEN ON THE HILL is not some inherent evil.
And according to your explanation, there should be - what - a commission that determines whether people are worthy of being able to move to the Hill? Please, dude. If you can honestly tell me that you were here on the Hill in the 70s and 80s (as I was), or even before that (BEFORE ALL THE GAYS AND HIPSTERS STARTED MOVING IN AND DRIVING UP HOUSING COSTS, YOU FUCKWAD), then please just shut the fuck up. And seriously, you need to get out of Seattle now and then. Your provincial micro-neighborhood superiority complex is just not very becoming.
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@11 new places on the hill? like what? like this place? because many people like this new place, i guess. maybe people like you.
but we have places like that already. in belltown. on queen anne. in ballard. on the eastside. and many of us on the hill (thanks for your own stereotyping though!) to venture out of capitol hill and seattle to visit other places. still, for many of us, there are places we prefer, places that feel more like home to us.
we hear more and more about noise complaints, more and more about high prices for housing, more and more about lack of space for artists, more and more about new "fancy" bars and restaurants. you may like where it is now, and where you see it going. some of us liked it already, and don't like the watered-down, sanitized version of capitol hill.
of course, maybe the hill i am fond of is an aberration to someone else! who am i, anyway? it's always changing. each change will appeal to someone, i suppose. (well, at least i can say i've been here.... born on first hill!)
despite all that, and despite hanging out on the block that is no more when it was, i didn't go to this party. in fact, i've just left the neighborhood for one i can afford. i think i'm rambling now...
but we have places like that already. in belltown. on queen anne. in ballard. on the eastside. and many of us on the hill (thanks for your own stereotyping though!) to venture out of capitol hill and seattle to visit other places. still, for many of us, there are places we prefer, places that feel more like home to us.
we hear more and more about noise complaints, more and more about high prices for housing, more and more about lack of space for artists, more and more about new "fancy" bars and restaurants. you may like where it is now, and where you see it going. some of us liked it already, and don't like the watered-down, sanitized version of capitol hill.
of course, maybe the hill i am fond of is an aberration to someone else! who am i, anyway? it's always changing. each change will appeal to someone, i suppose. (well, at least i can say i've been here.... born on first hill!)
despite all that, and despite hanging out on the block that is no more when it was, i didn't go to this party. in fact, i've just left the neighborhood for one i can afford. i think i'm rambling now...
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12, maybe you've heard of a paper called "The Stranger". They typically inform the public of all the new places opening up. Maybe just stroll down 15th or up and down Pike/Pine. It's pretty fucking vibrant, full of hipsters, fags, dykes and other scum of the earth (of which I am one). I live just over the hill and spend most of my recreational time there. The streets are always teeming with people, and they are by and large not yuppie scum invaders from Belltown. In fact, I've lived on and around the hill for several decades now, and I can tell you that the Hill is more vibrant, lively and interesting now than ever before.
And I haven't been to Tavern Law. Maybe I'll go, maybe I won't. But it's a locally-owned and operated business that is offering (apparently) excellent food, booze and atmosphere on a block formerly occupied by empty, decrepit buildings. I don't really get what's to hate here, other than the fact that you apparently can't afford it.
And I haven't been to Tavern Law. Maybe I'll go, maybe I won't. But it's a locally-owned and operated business that is offering (apparently) excellent food, booze and atmosphere on a block formerly occupied by empty, decrepit buildings. I don't really get what's to hate here, other than the fact that you apparently can't afford it.
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Seriously. Isn't there a bar, rest, or whatever for everybody? Pick your group and you can be comfortable there and with some places, they can even mix! Oh my! Ha ha. One crowd is not destroying the hill. Everybody has their opinion, and mine is the hill has NEVER thrived more than it is now.
You go out to Pike and Pine on a weekend and there's thousands and thousands of people out and about.
I've living on the hill for 15 years and can't imagine living somewhere else.
As you were
You go out to Pike and Pine on a weekend and there's thousands and thousands of people out and about.
I've living on the hill for 15 years and can't imagine living somewhere else.
As you were
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While I agree that the condos aren't doing much to improve the character of Capitol Hill, I've lived there for 13 years and it had lost many of the businesses that gave it its charm at least 2-3 years prior to the condo invasion. Pistil, Fall Out, Hello Gorgeous, Vintage Voola, Penny & Perk, Hi-Score, Paradiso, Mohair, Lipstick Traces, Green Cat, etc...I may be wrong about a couple, but I don't think any of these closed due to being kicked out by developers. I knew a couple of the owners and remember them complaining that the rent was just too high. One of them was robbed at gunpoint several times, which I'm sure didn't help to keep her there.
Capitol Hill had been mainly bars and clubs by the time the developers moved in, and while the designs of these places were cool and unique, the music and people who frequented them were the same. You'd see the same crowd at Kincora's, Cha Cha, Linda's, Bus Stop. And without all the other great places to go, the neighborhood basically turned into a place to drink, see a show & get coffee. Capitol Hill as a neighborhood was gone long before the Eastsiders moved in, though I know the Stranger loves to hate on them as much as Slog posters love to hate on hipsters.
I also moved from a Cap Hill apartment to condo because I couldn't deal with the Monday night parties and in-house band practices the other tenants used to host.
Capitol Hill had been mainly bars and clubs by the time the developers moved in, and while the designs of these places were cool and unique, the music and people who frequented them were the same. You'd see the same crowd at Kincora's, Cha Cha, Linda's, Bus Stop. And without all the other great places to go, the neighborhood basically turned into a place to drink, see a show & get coffee. Capitol Hill as a neighborhood was gone long before the Eastsiders moved in, though I know the Stranger loves to hate on them as much as Slog posters love to hate on hipsters.
I also moved from a Cap Hill apartment to condo because I couldn't deal with the Monday night parties and in-house band practices the other tenants used to host.
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Are there more pictures of the party posted anywhere? There is almost nothing on flickr. A ton of people where taking pictures (vain am I I want to find myself)
please post a link if you can.
please post a link if you can.
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11 - Matt Hickey NEVER leaves Broadway/Pine/Pike, it would be nice to take these little inbred fuckers out to the suburbs to give them something to really whine about - but alas they are so inbred they can't see anywhere past 10 feet and go into seizures when they cross the I-5 / 520 / I-90 fences of shame.
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http://usnaps.com/catalog/index2.php?cPa…
for the photobooth pic's
and all over facebook for any others
i don't know what the hell # 7 was talking about. i was there till close-out & knew a shit ton of the people at that party, that were there till the end, that are all residents of the Hill. you guys can't just fucking enjoy a fun night, can you?
#2, why does it matter ... ain'tcha never heard of the term "all publicity is good publicity"??? why do we always have to have bitchy, snoody fucks on the hill?
for the photobooth pic's
and all over facebook for any others
i don't know what the hell # 7 was talking about. i was there till close-out & knew a shit ton of the people at that party, that were there till the end, that are all residents of the Hill. you guys can't just fucking enjoy a fun night, can you?
#2, why does it matter ... ain'tcha never heard of the term "all publicity is good publicity"??? why do we always have to have bitchy, snoody fucks on the hill?
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"It was a little off-putting that by the end of the night the majority of the crowd were Belltown and Eastside types—the very people the block was bulldozed to make room for. Maybe they didn't understand the point of the party."
Well, perhaps more residents should have been invited.
"real lame considering the bars owners weren't asked or contacted beforehand for permission to use their names and likenesses. For Jansport as well. What the fuck. How lame can it get? Now we know."
Nice co-opt then, yeesh.
Well, perhaps more residents should have been invited.
"real lame considering the bars owners weren't asked or contacted beforehand for permission to use their names and likenesses. For Jansport as well. What the fuck. How lame can it get? Now we know."
Nice co-opt then, yeesh.
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17 sez: "@13 your comment to me is like a ship passing in the night."
And yet 17 responded to 13. Does 17 respond to ships that pass in the night? Apparently so.
FAIL. Now get off the Internet. Your mommy says it's bed time.
And yet 17 responded to 13. Does 17 respond to ships that pass in the night? Apparently so.
FAIL. Now get off the Internet. Your mommy says it's bed time.
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gee, i don't know #20 you fucking dumbass. how about if you owned a bar and they used it's name and likeness for a gay backpack company without your permission?
why don't you open up a 'starbucks' coffee stand in front of your mothers house and see how long that lasts, dipshit?
now please remember to cut your wrists DOWN THE STREET and not ACROSS THE ROAD
why don't you open up a 'starbucks' coffee stand in front of your mothers house and see how long that lasts, dipshit?
now please remember to cut your wrists DOWN THE STREET and not ACROSS THE ROAD
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@22. you don't know what "ships passing in the night" means, do you? or do you take every analogy too far? or do you always respond to responses to ships passing in the night? (i think i got that right, whatever it is supposed to mean).
it's okay, at least you used "FAIL" mostly in the right way. that's an exciting and original post, too! speaking of which, chuck norris makes me vomit in mouth a little play me away keyboard LOLcat dancing jesus WTFBBQ the irony is killing me.!!!1!
it's okay, at least you used "FAIL" mostly in the right way. that's an exciting and original post, too! speaking of which, chuck norris makes me vomit in mouth a little play me away keyboard LOLcat dancing jesus WTFBBQ the irony is killing me.!!!1!
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@10 If you call a bunch of skinny hipster American Apparel/Urban Outfitter cokeheads "culture", then Capitol Hill certainly has it.
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remylehill (#20):
went to http://usnaps.com but still need more info to get the pics, can you post the full url?
Maybe need to include a code?
went to http://usnaps.com but still need more info to get the pics, can you post the full url?
Maybe need to include a code?
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26, it's not about a party. It's about the soul of Capitol Hill. People from other neighborhoods are coming here, and we don't want them.
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$10,000 and corporate sponsorship for a party to celebrate a bunch of dive bars (most of which have moved elsewhere and are still operating)? And complaints that people from other neighborhoods attended? If anything is wrong with Capitol Hill, it's this party and the people whining about someone from Belltown stepping across Boren and invading their hood.
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#19 Actually, I just got back from a wonderful trip to Vancouver, BC. I'm not sure where the idea that I never leave the hill came from, but it's not a very accurate one. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to take a nap before I head to the Central District.
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laughing my ass off at these comments. i like how people who weren't there and not invited have decided that our party was lame. get with the program people!
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Aw...Look at you all just learning about Gentrification. This is just adorable.
This is a cycle that has been taking place in the urban world for, oh...say, the last 3-4 centuries. That is why the 'Hip' neighborhoods move over time. Capitol Hill was a fine place, but it's time is passing. The aesthetic of the place is being rejected both by those who are growing out of it and by the youth, who have no time for the old ideas it represents.
Where will the next hip neighborhood be? Should we start a poll?
This is a cycle that has been taking place in the urban world for, oh...say, the last 3-4 centuries. That is why the 'Hip' neighborhoods move over time. Capitol Hill was a fine place, but it's time is passing. The aesthetic of the place is being rejected both by those who are growing out of it and by the youth, who have no time for the old ideas it represents.
Where will the next hip neighborhood be? Should we start a poll?
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