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Tuesday, February 14, 2012

White Supremacist Tampers With City Arts' Excerpt of Listen, Whitey!

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On Feb. 13, a white supremacist with quite a lot of time on his/her hands removed copies of the current City Arts magazine from a box in Wallingford and stapled some racist propaganda to the pages where it had excerpted local author Pat Thomas’ forthcoming book, Listen, Whitey! The Sights and Sounds of Black Power 1965-1975, a perceptive overview of the Black Power movement and the music it influenced.

Picking up a copy of City Arts from a box on N. 45th near the Guild 45th Theatre, a reader tipped off City Arts that someone had attached a photocopied article titled “Black People Are More Criminal Than White People” with a handwritten note: “To hell with the music of Black Power! Read this!” The lowlife also provided a link to a site pushing anti-black sentiments, unamusementpark.com... in Seattle, in 2012.

In other news, Thomas’ book is fantastic; you should read it, and also pick up the accompanying CD issued by Light in the Attic, Listen, Whitey! The Sounds of Black Power 1967-1974. It's history, and you can dance to it.

Thomas will hold a lecture/presentation on Listen, Whitey! March 1 at Washington Hall.

 

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Larry Mizell, Jr. 1
probably a Slog troll too
Posted by Larry Mizell, Jr. on February 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM · Report this
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Surely this didn't happen in the quiet, liberal lil' neighborhood of Wallingford? I thought the North End was hella progressive.

"Fuck whitey/fuck the bouncer/fuck police" - SP
Posted by Mike Ramos on February 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM · Report this
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that's not a white supremacist, that's just a resident of Wallingford.
Posted by gi on February 14, 2012 at 2:34 PM · Report this
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Thank you for the free publicity, Nazi motherfuckers! - Fantagraphics Books
Posted by Eric Reynolds on February 15, 2012 at 11:10 AM · Report this
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Um, that guy in the picture is making me reconsider my sexual orientation... lol.

Dave, if you see the racist, let me know and I'll trip him face first onto the concrete and then say, "have a nice trip, see you next fall!!!" And then I'll eat cookies with Charles.
Posted by scratchmaster joe on February 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM · Report this
venomlash 6
@5: I'd suggest going all asdfmovie 3 on him.
Posted by venomlash on February 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM · Report this
Fnarf 7
Definitely the Slog troll.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 15, 2012 at 2:17 PM · Report this
34x42 8
@3 ftw
Posted by 34x42 on February 15, 2012 at 2:47 PM · Report this
SPG 9
The slog troll hasn't chimed in on this yet?
Posted by SPG on February 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM · Report this
Zebes 10
Here, I'll fill in:

Honestly, if you look at the science numbers, in nine out of ten cases if you give knives to as many black people as you do white people the black people are 50% more likely to be black with knives than the white people are in half the cases reported. If you round up, that's scientifici proof that blacks are always wrong. It's just facts, people.
Posted by Zebes http://www.badrap.org/rescue/index.html on February 15, 2012 at 4:21 PM · Report this
LEE. 11
you guys, I don't think THE TROLL and the racist troll who posts the same copypasta anytime anything about black people comes up in Slog are the same person...
Posted by LEE. on February 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM · Report this
LEE. 12
PROVE ME WRONG, TROLL!!!
Posted by LEE. on February 15, 2012 at 6:13 PM · Report this
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A "white supremacist" is responsible" for spreading "racist propaganda?" Come on you don't have to be a supremacist to notice statistical patterns in crime, and the stats are the stats. If you have any problems with the numbers, Dave, come and leave a comment at the author of the flyer's blog, here:
http://unamusementpark.com/2012/02/why-t…
Posted by Penter on February 16, 2012 at 4:17 AM · Report this
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Sorry. The blog cut off the url. Well, you know the website, but your article is discussed here: http://tinyurl.com/7362vfs
Posted by Penter on February 16, 2012 at 4:20 AM · Report this
undead ayn rand 15
@11: Period-polygamist troll and white supremacist troll are totally the same ranty no-dick.
Posted by undead ayn rand on February 16, 2012 at 7:49 AM · Report this
undead ayn rand 16
@13: We're not so naive as to believe anything that comes out of your mouth is sincere.

White Supremacists in modern times are "never about hate!" it's always about "heritage", or "White Pride" or the Bell Curve, or uncontextual crime statistics, or fearing "white genocide".

Give me a break, you're the same racist scum you always were.
Posted by undead ayn rand on February 16, 2012 at 7:53 AM · Report this
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Holy crap, this Dave Segal is an moron. So celebrating the black power movement is good clean fun, but citing racial crime statistics is evil? Now let's see Dave and the rest of you geniuses disprove anything in the "white supremacist" flyer.

And to the poster Zebes; are you aware of how absolutely stupid your lame attempt at a sarcastic put-down of the statistics is, and just desperately hoping that it will provide a brief mood of some kind of intellectual superiority for you and your fellow reality-denying liberal goons, or are you just a genuine, full-bore, 100 percent, completely cut off from logic and facts, convinced, true believing leftist moron?
Posted by Maenalus on February 16, 2012 at 8:11 AM · Report this
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Holy crap, this Dave Segal is an moron. So celebrating the black power movement is good clean fun, but citing racial crime statistics is evil? Now let's see Dave and the rest of you geniuses disprove anything in the "white supremacist" flyer.

And to the poster Zebes; are you aware of how absolutely stupid your lame attempt at a sarcastic put-down of the statistics is, and just desperately hoping that it will provide a brief mood of some kind of intellectual superiority for you and your fellow reality-denying liberal goons, or are you just a genuine, full-bore, 100 percent, completely cut off from logic and facts, convinced, true believing leftist moron?
Posted by Maenalus on February 16, 2012 at 8:17 AM · Report this
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@16: You idiot. It's you liberal "anti-racists" who are always citing uncontexual incarceration statistics. The context being the the crime statistics.

Of course we all know what the "context" for the crime statistics is according to you leftist no-brains: "THEY CAN'T HELP IT! THE WHITE DEVIL MAKES THEM DO IT!"
Posted by Maenalus on February 16, 2012 at 8:55 AM · Report this
LEE. 20
@15

no way, the racist is nowhere clever enough to write all that poetry that the Period Troll does. not to mention the racist has admitted to being an atheist before while the other is clearly terrified of Hell. but to make things interesting, I'll bet you a thousand dollars...not that we'll ever know the truth.
Posted by LEE. on February 16, 2012 at 9:46 AM · Report this
undead ayn rand 21
@20: "while the other is clearly terrified of Hell"

Eh, I don't see actual attempts at a religious argument, just the same slimebag attempts to be "shocking".

I'll match your one thousand spacebucks. One day, I will be vindicated!
Posted by undead ayn rand on February 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM · Report this
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Celebrating black power and using a racial slur against white people is “fantastic” in book form, and if you put it on a CD, it becomes “history… you can dance to.” Citing the government’s crime statistics is white supremacy and racist propaganda.

From the linked article. I agree with this. This article and the writer come across as absolutely ridiculous if he/she is expected be be outraged by racism.
Posted by MrX on February 16, 2012 at 11:49 AM · Report this
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Crime statistics = racist propaganda?

The white/black split in my county is more or less fifty-fifty, and, as a point to which I can personally attest, living in a county as dusky as mine ensures that the evening news is always jam-packed with "racist propaganda."
Posted by trololo on February 16, 2012 at 2:41 PM · Report this
LEE. 24
@22

NEVER!!!
Posted by LEE. on February 16, 2012 at 5:58 PM · Report this
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Everybody says there is this race problem. Everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into White countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and “assimilating” with them.
Everybody says there is this race problem. Everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every White country and only into White countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and "assimilating" with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every White country and only White countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only when hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every Black country and only into Black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a race problem, I'm talking about the final solution to the Black problem? How long would it take any sane Black man to notice this, and what kind of psycho Black man wouldn't object to this?
But if I tell the obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the White race, liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is just a codeword for anti-white.
Posted by Larry Sullivan on February 16, 2012 at 10:06 PM · Report this
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Undead Ayn Rand, what "context" is it that you think is missing in this discussion?

Go read the flier - and then come back and tell me what you think is inaccurate or what "context" is missing.
Posted by Yvonne on February 17, 2012 at 2:26 AM · Report this
undead ayn rand 27
@26: Yawn, the same sad trolls.
Posted by undead ayn rand on February 17, 2012 at 7:59 AM · Report this
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Shouldn’t all you guys who are so gung-ho about racial “purity” be reproducing with other “pure” whites to ensure that your future is “pure” and “superior,” instead of trolling a liberal newspaper’s music blog? Oh, wait, it takes social skills and a modicum of charm to get laid. Never mind...
Posted by Dave Segal on February 17, 2012 at 9:55 AM · Report this
LEE. 29
@27

also, the period troll refers their self as "we", "us"...they would never said "I" or "me".

to the people worried about scary black people taking over the world: why don't you get a job where you can re-focus that Quixotic energy? if you're so worried about the destruction of the white race, you could always become an astronomer to catalog the comets and asteroids out there that could collide with the planet and wipe us all out. that seems like a loftier goal than endlessly fretting about the eventual browning of humanity. and crime...I must never forget the crime!
Posted by LEE. on February 17, 2012 at 10:01 AM · Report this
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The Stranger, oddly, did not provide a link to the flyer. As the discerning readers of The Stranger no doubt wish to judiciously consider all aspects of the story, I provide a link to it: http://unamusementpark.com/wp-content/up…
Posted by CKorzeniowski on February 17, 2012 at 10:51 AM · Report this
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What is your argument with the flyer?

Do people here disagree that black people are more criminal than white people?

If you do disagree, then what makes you think that black people are no more criminal than white people?
Posted by Black Power White Power http://unamusementpark.com on February 17, 2012 at 11:17 AM · Report this
undead ayn rand 32
lawl

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Profi…
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Profi…
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Profi…

we know you're all the same people. Why open up a zillion shill accounts to say the same shit?

@29: "also, the period troll refers their self as "we", "us"...they would never said "I" or "me"."

Ok, I'll bite on that.

Posted by undead ayn rand on February 17, 2012 at 11:31 AM · Report this
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I doubt they're the same person. There are a lot of people who read Unamusement Park, as you can tell by the fact that their flyers end up in Seattle's City Arts in the first place.

Nobody said "shit". At least, nobody that could be confused with a reader of Unamusement Park.

Penter posted a link where you can post any mistakes you find in the numbers in the flyer.
Maenalus is much less polite, and pointed out your hypocricy and lack of intelligence.
Larry Sullivan on the other hand simply complained about his people being victims of genocide, and didn't address the flyer or black crime at all.

They look like different people responding to different topics in different styles, and making different points. As you would expect on any blog post.
Posted by Black Power White Power http://unamusementpark.com on February 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM · Report this
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Guys! How are y'all doing on that impregnating "pure" white women front? Please keep us posted (POIDH). So much hangs in the balance.
Posted by Dave Segal on February 17, 2012 at 12:30 PM · Report this
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'Guys! How are y'all doing on that impregnating "pure" white women front? Please keep us posted (POIDH). So much hangs in the balance.'

You're confusing us with black people. White people have actual families and look after and raise their children, and pay for the costs of their children themselves. Impregnating lots of women and abandoning them and the children, while the white tax-payer picks up the bill, is the black reproductive strategy.

But you are right, the existance of the white race, and the kinds of societies that only the white race has created, does hang in the balance. So unless you'd enjoy living in Africa or Mexico, you need to preserve the white race for future generations.

You didn't answer my question about whether you disagree with the statement that black people are more criminal than white people. I assume that means you agree with it.
Posted by Black Power White Power http://unamusementpark.com on February 17, 2012 at 12:45 PM · Report this
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'White Supremacists in modern times are "never about hate!" it's always about "heritage", or "White Pride" or the Bell Curve, or uncontextual crime statistics, or fearing "white genocide".
Give me a break, you're the same racist scum you always were.'

Yes, white supremacists are exactly the same as they always were. Because historical white supremacists were also never about hate. It always has been about heritage, white pride, "the bell curve" (although they didn't call it that), crime statistics, and fearing white genocide. White people are not irrationally hateful people and never have been.

By the way, the crime statistics for black people are the same for EVERY CONTEXT. Everywhere in the world, and at any time in history, black people commit more crime. It makes no difference which country you look at.
Posted by Black Power White Power http://unamusementpark.com on February 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM · Report this
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Keep painting everything in obtusely broad strokes and looking at life in reductio ad absurdum ways, if it helps you to sleep at night, BPWP. Reality is way more complicated and nuanced than you're making it out to be.
Posted by Dave Segal on February 17, 2012 at 1:35 PM · Report this
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You hear that everyone?! Dave here sees all the complexity and nuance of reality and doesn't paint issues with broad strokes! That's why the flyer gathering the nations crime statistics by race inspired him to write this intelligent, thoughtful look at crime and race in America! And why he totally did NOT respond by farting out a stupid little squeal against "white-supremacy", calling the statistics "racist propaganda" and leaving it at that! Because he's so nuanced! And complex! And doesn't paint issues with broad strokes! Yay!

Dave, like every single other liberal who has disgraced humanity with his presence, you have the self-awareness of a beach ball.

You miserable idiot.
Posted by Maenalus on February 17, 2012 at 3:23 PM · Report this
Grant Brissey, Emeritus 39
Hey racist fuckwads. Here's a broad stroke for you. Eat shit, and next time you want to spout the bullshit you've been eating all your life, leave your real name.
Posted by Grant Brissey, Emeritus http://www.grantropolis.com/ on February 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM · Report this
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The great multi-racial American empire where facts are racist? No wonder we are headed for third-world nationhood. The truth is:

Immigration, tolerance, assimilation and especially DIVERSITY are being used against the white race.
This immigration and intermarriage is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries.
Anti-white is called anti-racist, but it leads to the disappearance of one race and only one race, the white race.

It is genocide..
Posted by george9999 on February 17, 2012 at 5:36 PM · Report this
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Grant Brissey ought to know that blacks are far more likely to eat shit than whites. The Cholera rates for black countries prove this overwhelmingly. Your pathetic attempt at an insult won't change that either, nor will calling facts bullshit.
Posted by David.Hollister on February 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM · Report this
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Dear Ayn Rand: Some of us never bothered to open up an account. I don't think I'll be following this site regularly, so I don't see any point in it, especially since this site allows people to comment without registering.

But if you really think we're all the same people, why not ask the webmaster to confirm it by looking at our IPs?
Posted by Yvonne on February 18, 2012 at 2:44 AM · Report this
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"Eat shit"

And with that, Grant singlehandedly demonstrates the intellectual superiority of leftism.

Gotta love it.
Posted by Yvonne on February 18, 2012 at 2:47 AM · Report this
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Maenalus,

I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. Thanks for that! It seems like every day that I read leftist swill on the Internet I become even more convinced that leftism leads to mental retardation.
Posted by Natassia on February 18, 2012 at 8:07 AM · Report this
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"Eat shit, and next time you want to spout the bullshit you've been eating all your life, leave your real name."

Why?

What's so wrong with pointing out an obvious pattern in the crime stats, that someone should have to eat shit because of it?

And why do you need their real names? I'm guessing it's not so you can send them a thoughtful letter after you've gone over their stats and found some flaw in them. What violence are you planning on inflicting on people who point out inconvenient truths, that you need to know their real name for?
Posted by Black Power White Power http://unamusementpark.com on February 18, 2012 at 1:34 PM · Report this
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"Keep painting everything in obtusely broad strokes and looking at life in reductio ad absurdum ways, if it helps you to sleep at night, BPWP. Reality is way more complicated and nuanced than you're making it out to be."

In what way is it more complex? Have you found some context in which black people don't commit more crime? Have you found some rare case where white people discriminated against non-white people for some reason that had nothing to do with protecting their own heritage, taking pride in themselves, the differences in intelligence distributions, avoiding crime, or preventing genocide?

Why don't you enlighten us with some nuanced and complicated explanation of what is happening in the crime statistics?
Posted by Black Power White Power http://unamusementpark.com on February 18, 2012 at 1:59 PM · Report this
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The Unamusement Park flyer is simply a set of government statistics. Not sure how that is in any way supremacist?
Posted by Steve Bloomberg on February 18, 2012 at 10:59 PM · Report this
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Citing government statistics is racist propadanda, but racial slurs against whites and black power is fantastic?

I visited Unamusement Park and must say it is an excellent site.
Posted by Steve Bloomberg on February 18, 2012 at 11:04 PM · Report this
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Grant Brissey, perhaps you could try playing the ball instead of the man (as the expression goes)?
Posted by Steve Bloomberg on February 18, 2012 at 11:06 PM · Report this
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***Shouldn’t all you guys who are so gung-ho about racial “purity” be reproducing with other “pure” whites to ensure that your future is “pure” and “superior,” instead of trolling a liberal newspaper’s music blog? Oh, wait, it takes social skills and a modicum of charm to get laid. Never mind...***

@ Dave Segal,

Who is gung-ho about "racial purity"? Maybe you are thinking of some of the comments you find on Asiasfinest? Anyway, I think Unamusement Park is mainly concerned about crime rates, human biodiversity and unfair blaming of europeans for underachievement by some groups (obviously by those who are unfamiliar with HBD research).
Posted by Steve Bloomberg on February 18, 2012 at 11:13 PM · Report this
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Well you can't blame a bunch of childless hipsters for conforming to the accepted views of the day in regards to the declining white population and the future of the country. Meaning that thinking it's a very bad thing is normal but saying that it's a bad thing makes you as bad as Hitler, in 2012.
Posted by bubo on February 19, 2012 at 2:27 PM · Report this
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Thank you Maenalus that was hilarious!

This Dave guy is a tool who states that white racial slurs and black power is "fantastic" but labels verifiable facts in a flyer as "racial propaganda".

Please come back and debate your rediculous opinion Dave instead of leaving a stupid vague comment about how everything is soooo complex.

Cheers
Posted by craig J on February 19, 2012 at 4:02 PM · Report this
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These statistics fail to impress the faithful because they are given as a symbolic threat; whereas only personal threat, if anything, can bring people around to the truth of race.

At the symbolic level, anyone pushing statistics or the like is the threat to group norms.

Even when they're "mugged by reality", as we say, their threat perception is so impaired that interpretations are available to them to avoid cognitive dissonance; clear-cut pathology of denial.

But I suppose any attempt at kulchur-jamming is better than none.
Posted by uh on February 19, 2012 at 4:02 PM · Report this
Gunshots 54
Interesting, though all on here are willing to hack at the fliers, not one is willing to refute the contents.

Whites have let themselves be convinced that it is racist merely to object to dispossession,
much less to work for their own interests.
Never before has a people been fooled into thinking that there was virtue or nobility in surrendering its heritage,
and giving away to others its place in history,
only whites have been tricked into thinking that love for their own people is somehow “hatred” of others.
Posted by Gunshots on February 19, 2012 at 6:58 PM · Report this
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Is this paper like The Onion? I can't imagine a newspaper hiring people who can't argue facts and write about such hypocritical nonsense as this.

Just to educate the 'journalists' working at this (God please let this be a parody newspaper) newspaper, racism is racism. It's not something reserved solely for minorities. "Listen, Whitey" is just as racist as "Listen, Negro". The Black Power Movement is every bit as racial as a White Power Movement. Statistics aren't racism. Perhaps there's some underlying reason BEHIND the unpleasant results of the statistics, but just because one group seems to be doing something worse than the rest doesn't make it racist. SOME group will always be doing worse, and some other group will always do better. It seems the only way you guys would accept statistics is if white people were shown to be the worst at whatever. Anything else has to be racist.

There's no logic in this kind of thinking at all. There's clearly not a moment of thought going into anything you've written about. The people at the paper seem to want to jump rails and talk about racial purity, or be completely unprofessional and tell everyone to 'eat shit'.

However, if this is a parody newspaper, then good job. It is kind of funny if that's what's going on I guess. If it's a serious newspaper, then this has to be the most shit news anything I've ever seen. FoxNews can at least backup some of their bullshit with some clever (or not) spin. "Eat shit" is just a crybaby tantrum. I'd fire your ass.
Posted by MrX on February 20, 2012 at 3:11 AM · Report this
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White supremacists:

1. You felt threatened by a magazine excerpt from a book about a movement (and the music it inspired) that was quashed by COINTELPRO almost four decades ago? You should be strutting like peacocks over that turn of events; instead, you feel the need to brandish stats that show blacks commit more crimes than whites (with no acknowledgment of the underlying causes for those stats), and then wear those numbers like some kind of badge of pride. "SEE?! SEE?! BLACKS ARE INNATELY INFERIOR!" So deep-seated are your insecurities and persecution complexes that you feel compelled to elevate yourselves with crime stats?
2. What is pure white culture and why is it so all-fired precious to you? I’m genuinely curious. So much culture and language is a polyglot mix of elements, and generally we’re better for it. But if it bothers you so much to have to have your pure white lives marred by people unlike you and by culture unlike yours, you should get out of America, which is one of the most diverse nations on Earth. Maybe Iceland would be more to your liking. They speak impeccable English there, too.
3. The majority of American serial killers and white-collar criminals are white. Going to emblazon that on T-shirt and wear it around town?
4. “Whitey” really hurts, eh? I thought white-power dudes were tougher than that.
5. How are you guys doing with that propagation of the pure white race thing? Be so kind as to keep us updated.
Posted by Dave Segal on February 20, 2012 at 1:06 PM · Report this
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don't quote crime stats here, Dave Segal wants to remain living in his fake naivete
Posted by Dave Segal is a DWL on February 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM · Report this
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Name ONE place that that has improved as its black population grew and its white population declined. Name one place where crime went down as its black population went up.

Name on country or city that has a black majority and is run by a black majority government that isn't a total shit hole.

Oh yeah, you can't.
Posted by Dave Segal is a faith-based DWL on February 20, 2012 at 1:29 PM · Report this
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Quoting the facts about Seattle's African-American population size in conjunction with the facts about the number of annual killings committed by African-Americans in Seattle is super-forbidden here! Don't do it!
Posted by Dave Segal = Disingenuous White Liberal on February 20, 2012 at 1:35 PM · Report this
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Don't compare the cities of Pittsburgh and Detroit! Don't compare their populations or murder rates! It just isn't allowed here!
Posted by VerbotenVeritas on February 20, 2012 at 1:43 PM · Report this
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Don't compare the cities of Atlanta and Portland Oregon! Don't compare their populations or murder rates! It just isn't allowed here!
Posted by VerbotenVeritas on February 20, 2012 at 1:44 PM · Report this
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Dave, I'm not any kind of white supremacist, but thank you for responding.

1. I don't think anyone feels 'threatened'. It's just that celebrating one kind of racial branding while condemning another is highly hypocritical.
2. Why wouldn't our culture and traditions be important to us? For everyone else, it's defended as the most critical thing to their identity, especially in America. Even nationalist ideals are held up as important to anyone from any non-white country. Why can't the same be said of white people without it being 'racist'? Isn't it extremely racist to say that these things are acceptable for anyone EXCEPT whites? Can you imagine what would happen if someone at a newspaper suggested that everyone except black people could have pride in themselves?
3. No, but I don't see Black History Month posting crime statistics either. 'Pride' means taking pride in the positives of your identity, rather than being burdened by the negatives. Gay Pride, Black Pride, whatever... these can have positive effects on people. White people are pretty much stuck with White Guilt.
4. Given the medias insistence that blacks and hispanics are the toughest of the tough (and 'better at sports') you'd think they'd be ok with being called names too.
5. You are the first one to even bring up racial purity here. But think about this. People go on about how they can't stand racism and how we have to tolerate everyone and everything, but then long for the day when we are all one color. If diversity IS a strength, shouldn't we all be desperately trying to stay diverse and racially pure? Not just whites, but everyone else too.
Posted by MrX on February 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM · Report this
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"White supremacists:"
That's not entirely accurate. People who say white people commit less crime than black people, also acknowledge that North East Asians (Japanese, Chinese, Koreans) commit even less crime that white people. It's not about saying white people are the best, just about addressing the black crime problem everyone is expected to pretend doesn't exist.

"1. You felt threatened by a magazine excerpt from a book about a movement (and the music it inspired) that was quashed by COINTELPRO almost four decades ago? You should be strutting like peacocks over that turn of events; instead, you feel the need to brandish stats that show blacks commit more crimes than whites (with no acknowledgment of the underlying causes for those stats), and then wear those numbers like some kind of badge of pride. "SEE?! SEE?! BLACKS ARE INNATELY INFERIOR!" So deep-seated are your insecurities and persecution complexes that you feel compelled to elevate yourselves with crime stats?"

I can't speak for whoever put leaflets in City Arts. But I think you underestimate the successes the black power movement had in changing the whole nature of the United States (for the worse, unfortunately). Black people are far, far more empowered now than they were before, and white people are far less empowered. And the constant anti-white propaganda is a real problem, especially since pro-white propaganda is banned.

This next point is important...
It really doesn't matter what the underlying causes of high black crime rates are! It's still a real fact, whatever the cause. People still need to avoid groups of young black men if they want to reduce their risk of being victims of crime. It's not safe to live in an area with a significant black population because the risk that one of them is a criminal that will target you is higher than most people can accept (or deserve).
I'm sure that if the flyer doesn't mention the causes of black crime, then the Unamusement Park website that it links to will. If you can't find it there, I'm sure they'd do an article on it just for you. But don't expect the cause to be evil white people, since that wouldn't explain the low Asian crime rate I mentioned.

What's wrong with taking pride in the fact that your race only commits a small amount of crime? Seems like a worthy thing to take pride in. And people should take responsibility and feel ashamed if their race commits a large amount of crime.

If black people are innately inferior on average in terms of self-control, empathy, aggression, inteligence, or whatever other factor causes them to commit more crime, then that has a huge effect on what policy decisions society needs to make. It's not some irrelevant fact that people bring up just to be mean.

"2. What is pure white culture and why is it so all-fired precious to you? I’m genuinely curious."

You are the one that keeps talking about purity. Nobody else much cares about a few non-white foreigners here and there living in white countries. But in the United States it is rapidly approaching the point where white people will be a minority. White children are already a minority in many places. In every white country, and only white countries, white people are at risk of becoming minorities sometime this century due to a constant intake of other races, especially those with higher fertility rates. So it's not about purity, it's just about being white enough to ensure white people don't lose control of their countries.

There are many reasons why white culture, pure or not, is precious. Firstly because ALL cultures are precious. People hate the idea of cultures disappearing and becoming extinct, or becoming just shadows of their former selves, whatever the culture is. You wouldn't wish Africa to be swamped by non-Africans until Africans became a minority. Nor would you wish it on Asians, or Arabs. It's like how people want to preserve all species of plants and animals, etc. It's just human nature to value these things.

Secondly, because EVERYONE likes white culture. Almost everyone in the world, even many North East Asians, want to move to white countries. They like the kinds of countries that white people create, but they are unable to create countries like that for themselves. And white people like it to.

Obviously, since we're posting crime stats, one of the things we like about white culture is that white people commit less crime than most other races (except North East Asians). We like being able to walk down the street without getting mugged, being able to go out without our house being robbed, being able to talk or argue with people without getting stabbed, shot, or punched, being able to do business without getting ripped off, etc. Even Jesse Jackson admitted "There is nothing more painful to me … than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." Even the most white-hating people are relieved to have white people around when it comes to worrying about crime.

The health care, welfare systems, etc. that white people create are just amazing. The education environment in white areas is also great.

And the technological advancement created by white countries is truly mind-blowing. We sent people to the moon, for goodness sake.

The organisation, compassion, fairness, creativity, etc. found in white countries just can't be beaten.

And of course, I value white culture because it's a part of who I am.

But most importantly... white people feed the world. White people grow most of the crops, create most of the medicines, develop most of the technology, provide most of the aid, etc. Other races depend on white people for their very survival. If white people lose their countries, half the world will collapse with them. And the non-white people living in white countries can't survive after they kill off or overpower their hosts.
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Posted by Black Power White Power http://unamusementpark.com on February 20, 2012 at 4:04 PM · Report this
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"you should get out of America, which is one of the most diverse nations on Earth. Maybe Iceland would be more to your liking."

Unfortunately ALL white countries (and ONLY white countries) have been designated as diverse, despite them being created entirely by white people for white people. There really is nowhere left for white people to flee to.

"3. The majority of American serial killers and white-collar criminals are white. Going to emblazon that on T-shirt and wear it around town?"

If that is still true, which it might not be, it's only because the majority of American PEOPLE are white. You need to understand the concept of "per capita".
Black people commit far more serial killings and white-collar crime than white people do. Black people have a huge problem with white-collar crime. Almost every black person who gets a position of power will abuse that position. And Nigerian scams are the rule rather than the exception.
There is only one crime that white people commit more than black people, and that's Insider Trading. And the only reason for that is that it requires money, power, and intelligence to commit, and black people just aren't in a position where they can.

4. “Whitey” really hurts, eh? I thought white-power dudes were tougher than that.

Nope, they're exactly the same as any other white person, just with more knowledge of statistics and a bit less naivety. If you prick us, do we not bleed?

5. How are you guys doing with that propagation of the pure white race thing? Be so kind as to keep us updated.

What's with you and purity? You are completely missing the point.
Being responsible and looking after your children, makes it harder for white people to have as many children as non-white people do. Especially when white people have to pay for black people's 6 children that they can't/won't look after, to the point where they can't afford to have a second or third child themselves. That, plus the constant immigration, leads to white people's countries quickly being swamped with non-white people, and white people being at risk of losing the countries and their cultures, and eventually their very existance.
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Posted by Black Power White Power http://unamusementpark.com on February 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM · Report this
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the comment section is the only place you bitches live. listen to this, you fucking cunts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUMnqmo_A…
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Hi Dave Segal! I wrote the flyer.

"The majority of American serial killers and white-collar criminals are white. Going to emblazon that on T-shirt and wear it around town? "

Interestingly enough, blacks make up over 20% of serial murderers (Society for Police and Criminal Psychology). Since they make up only about 13% of the population, blacks commit this crime at a higher rate than whites, just like they commit assault, rape, robbery and murder at higher rates than whites.

Simply put, blacks are more likely than whites to be serial killers.

What's equally interesting is that this information is ALL on my flyer, "Black People Are More Criminal Than White People." Maybe you should read it?

You can Google "black serial killers" and find that even The Root is on this:
"http://www.theroot.com/views/6-stereotyp…"
"http://www.theroot.com/views/course-ther…"

Plenty more information out there. So sure, I'll emblazon the following on a t-shirt: "Blacks are more likely to be serial murderers, just as they are more likely to commit every single other violent crime."
Posted by unamusementpark http://unamusementpark.com/ on February 20, 2012 at 7:20 PM · Report this
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"... instead, you feel the need to brandish stats that show blacks commit more crimes than whites..."

You sure are having trouble with this concept of "rates"! Let me help you out: the RATE (also known as a "per capita rate") at which blacks commit a crime is the number of crimes they commit, divided by their population. In discussing crime, only rates matter, not absolute numbers.

Consider: which is a better country: one with 10,000 people, half of whom (5,000) are criminals; or one with a million people, 1% of whom (10,000 > 5,000) are criminals? You see how only rates matter?

I have observed that blacks are more criminal than whites: they commit every violent crime, and in fact every single crime except liquor law violations, at a much higher RATE than whites. I think in the above quotation you're trying to admit that I'm absolutely right (in any case, the facts are not disputable), but you're still getting confused about the difference between a rate and an absolute number.

"...(with no acknowledgment of the underlying causes for those stats)..."

Actually, the flyer points out that (e.g.) poverty, unemployment and lack of education account for almost none of the connection (technically, correlation) between race and crime. If blacks had exactly the same jobs, incomes and educations as whites, the predictive value of race for criminality would be virtually unchanged! Interesting stuff, to be sure. Please try to understand the basics of statistics.

By the way (this is also from the flyer, which you steadfastly refuse to read and understand): why are you making excuses for violent criminals? Who are you protecting?

"...and then wear those numbers like some kind of badge of pride. 'SEE?! SEE?! BLACKS ARE INNATELY INFERIOR!'"

Well, no one said anything about "innate," but it does seem to be the only remaining explanation, considering that blacks are much more criminal than whites regardless of environment. Anyway, how would YOU describe criminality, if not "inferior"? Just out of interest.
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Posted by unamusementpark http://unamusementpark.com/ on February 20, 2012 at 7:29 PM · Report this
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@ Dave Segal,

I am happy to discuss underlying causes. I would recommend a criminology texts such as "Race & Crime: A biosocial analysis" by Anthony Walsh (2004).
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I'll bite, Mr. Segal.
1. I am not scared by a publication. I am not scared of the "black power movement." I own a handgun and I know how to use it to protect myself. However, the double-standard annoys me.
2. I don't know what "pure white culture" is, just as I don't know what "pure black culture" is. I suppose it depends on the heritage of the whites (or blacks) in question and where their ancestors came from. America is diverse, sure. And so we need to stop worrying about promoting diversity, don't you think? There are so many more important things to worry about--like violent crime and illegitimacy rates and illiteracy rates.
3. The majority of Americans are white, so the majority of serial killers and criminals should be white. However, blacks are DISPROPORTIONATELY over-represented in all crime categories except maybe arson.
4. No one likes to be disrespected. "Whitey" is a disrespectful term, and it is usually delivered in a very disrespectul way.
5. Straw man.
Posted by Natassia on February 21, 2012 at 7:31 AM · Report this
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"the comment section is the only place you b******* live. listen to this, you f****** c****:
(White Minority by Black Flag)"

That is indeed an important issue. But if a White minority is what you're calling for, you may want to reconsider how that would affect you personally, and how it would affect other people like you.

Once the United States only has a White minority, the whole country will become more and more like Detroit, or other white minority cities. With one difference: Detroit still receives assistance from external sources like the state and federal governments, but a White minority United States would not.

Imagine it as a cross between Haiti and Mexico, with a bit of Iraq thrown in.

Government money that other races depend on (either through government jobs or welfare) doesn't magically come from nowhere. Without white taxpayers, that money disappears. The same with health care, education, etc.

You will find white people are much more kind and generous towards other races than any other race would be. Mexicans aren't going to be bending over backwards to help black people and vice-versa.

If a white minority United States was lucky, it would be invaded by the Chinese. But don't expect them to have any sympathy for black people or hispanics. White guilt is only felt by white people.
Posted by Black Power White Power http://unamusementpark.com on February 22, 2012 at 4:53 AM · Report this
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Hey Dave Segal, if we are so wrong, then what is stopping you from living in some black-governed black-majority city like Detoilet or East St Louis?

After all, if we are SO WRONG, then you have absolutely nothing to worry about!

PROVE US WRONG and prove you aren't a stereotypical white liberal hypocrite and move from whiteywhite Seattle to a black city. They need your enlightened progressive uplifting much more than Seattle.

Otherwise STFU with your illogical disingenuous bleatings.
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Dave Segal got schooled by Black Power White Power.
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1. You felt threatened by a magazine excerpt

I think it's safe to say that leftoids are the ones who feel threatened. Threatened by facts, threatened by open inquiry, threatened by free speech. Hence all the "fuck you, racist pig" comments devoid of arguments, facts, or any interest in open inquiry or free speech.

But, as I pointed out in the other comment thread:

Liberals howl in rage when anyone brings up Black pathologies, failures, whatever you want to call them.

The general thrust seems to be, "how dare you bring this up?"

Well, we didn't bring it up. We had no choice but to respond, because leftoids forced the issue. Leftoids constantly bring up Black poverty, and other Black problems, and thrust them under YT's nose. They continually blame these problems on Whites.

Then when Whites defend themselves by, essentially, saying "we didn't 'break' Blacks - they're made that way," Leftoids say we're evil racist haters.

It's a lot like having a guy born with a gimpy leg drag you into court for breaking his leg, pointing out to the judge that his he was born with that leg, and having his lawyer howl about your "bigotry." I.e., it's like watching a pack of sociopaths attack you for profit.

If leftoids didn't want YT to point out that Blacks are born "broken," they shouldn't have blamed all Blacks' failings on us. If they didn't want YT defending himself, they shouldn't have dragged him into court with a frivolous lawsuit.

Leftoids, when you find yourself in a hole, the first step is to stop digging; drop your lawsuit.

It should be obvious that leftoids have made "racism" (assault with sharpened facts) against blacks a moral duty for all just men (not just YT). A just man can no more desert YT under these circumstances than he could our analogous defendant; it's his duty to go into court and testify the defect is congenital.

P.S., "correlation is not causation" isn't really saying much. If every fifth little green men from Mars pulls out his phaser and disintegrates a human for no apparent reason, nobody's going to care much if his green skin is "causing" the behavior; the green skin simply serves as a warning.
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Dave Segal: "How are you guys doing with that propagation of the pure white race thing? Be so kind as to keep us updated."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/bre…

Doing just fine, Dave. If you're having any trouble, you might want to give this a watch. It might help you out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7_tWNB2z…

Posted by Joel Peterson on April 14, 2012 at 2:39 PM · Report this
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Dave Segal: "How are you guys doing with that propagation of the pure white race thing? Be so kind as to keep us updated."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/bre…

Doing just fine, Dave. If you're having any trouble, you might want to give this a watch; it might help you out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7_tWNB2z…
Posted by Joel Peterson on April 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM · Report this

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