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Monday, May 21, 2012

RE: Fuck It, It's Gross and Rainy and Monday: Let's Listen to Mirah All Day

Posted by on Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Nah.

I need something with a beat.

Saturday, May 19, 2012

Place, Contextualise, Describe, Commercially Delineate

Posted by on Sat, May 19, 2012 at 9:54 AM

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The NME does one of those Best Songs Of The '90s lists and it cracks Neil Kulkarni in half.

He writes:

It's not the actual list that's the problem. The list is the usual mix of shit, shinola, and gold you'd expect. The problem is the writing & subbing of the text for each track. I mean, these are meant to be the greatest songs of their generation — does the writing communicate that sense of importance? Does the writing make you feel as excited, as bound up, as "Caught Out There", "Around The World", "Glory Box", or "Unfinished Sympathy" do? In fact — good example, let's check out what's said about no. 31.

'#31. Trip-hop progenitor "Unfinished Sympathy" is really a slick piece of hip-hop soul blessed with Shara Nelson’s broken bawl and some muted beats and cowbells from 3-D, Mushroom, and Daddy G. It came out under the more politically sensitive band name of Massive during the first Gulf War and ensured the collective remained the urban sophisticate’s artist of choice for the next decade'.

So, this is what music writing should do now. Place, contextualise, describe, commercially delineate. All well and good (although wtf 'urban sophisticate' means I rilly don't know) and utterly pitifully inadequate to the record itself. And if music writing keeps doing this, keeps on — in terror of the poetic and fear of the 'pretentious' — simply comprehending music and never rhapsodizing, keeps on worrying about filing without ever losing its mind, it will continue to lag behind the form it seeks to circumscribe, will continue to be so much chip-wrapping for its readers and its writers to forget almost instantaneously. How could you ever remember such lumpen prose, such cliché-ridden mediocrity, let alone recall the names responsible? Where does this writing send you? Is there ANYTHING in each write up of each track that in any way has a reason to exist, a reason to be, a reason to take up those pixels? Would the piece have in any way suffered from just being the YouTube links? Faced with new technologies that enable everyone to be a critic, what do you do? Make criticism look like everything else, or emphasise its unique posture, its antique desire not just to reflect but to CHANGE the way pop is thought about?

Also see: The Loss Of The British Voice, the invasion of U.S.-styled, Rolling Stone/Pitchfork writes-on-eggshells encyclopedic writing. Safe as houses.

So, this is what music writing should do now. Be factually inaccurate and have the ungainly ugliness of expression more suited to a college assignment, an exam, than music writing. These are writers surely inspired by no-one, and consequently it's impossible to hear a human voice emerging, or see an effort involved in finding that voice. Just the mechanical regurgitation of acceptable clichés, the defeated tone of those pushed around and cowed by the biz, the absolute dead-end determination to 'appeal' as widely as possible. A downright FEAR of the new idea and the dwindling-readership it might alienate, a terrified scurrying cowardly retreat into the lukewarm arms of cliché and staleness and imprecision.

Writers gotta realise — YOU ARE AN ARTIST TOO. Language is your medium, infinity is your potential, MATCH or even SURPASS the music you're writing about, you're just as good as those fkn musicians and writing about pop is a vital artform that actually contributes to the health, and the potential for surprise and intrigue, of a musical culture. You are not a fkn hanger-on (and spods and geeks and fans are important in any culture — remember fans are not disciples, fans can be betrayed) you are part of an argument, a battle. Pick up yr arms and yr pens and yr paper and yr brains and fkn fight. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.

Pete Brown adds:

I remember reading the Stud Brothers doing singles reviews in Melody Maker, and one time they spent almost the entire allocated word count on a review of a new Mission single which was nothing more than a diatribe about the name 'Wayne'. It made me want to be a writer.

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Wednesday, May 16, 2012

An Unfortunate Song About The OKC Thunder

Posted by on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Found on 206 Proof, thanks to the homie AB from Sonicsgate:

It's one thing to steal our basketball team... but I draw the fucking line at them stealing our awkward white boy speed rap swag. - Billy The Fridge

Fridge nailed it, too. This is the terrible kind of double-timey commercial-rap mimicry I thought was native to the lands far to the North and East of my lofty perch here on Capitol Trill. Maybe OKC just caught that fever, and now the local lames can let that style go; Seattle-area rappers, if you ever make a song that sounds even remotely like this, you will hereby be deported to the dustbowl quicker than you can tie a baby-blue durag.

Wednesday, May 9, 2012

North Carolina Has Really Embarrassed Me

Posted by on Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:33 PM

I know this is prolly more Slog-ish than Line Out-tee, but I'm kinda angry. I'm from North Carolina, all my family is still there, so I get real annoyed when my home state embarasses me with some ass backward bullshit. Fucking godamn rednecks. It's assholery like this that makes me glad I left, yet I certainly regret I wasn't there to help with the fight.

Um, I'm no lawyer, but NC's Amendment One sure seems to violate the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Amirite?!

Wednesday, May 2, 2012

Who Exactly Likes Rammstein?

Posted by on Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:59 AM

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While previewing Rammstein’s May 14 show at Tacoma Dome by listening to their best-of collection, Made in Germany: 1995-2011, I wondered, “Who likes this shit?” I have never met a Rammstein fan, and I’m old. But clearly they are popular enough to play huge venues in North America and release lavishly packaged CDs full of their bombastic, ham-fisted electronic-dance anthems, marked by Till Lindemann’s over-the-top guttural vocals. It's ugly, bulbous, way-too-full-of-itself music.

Rammstein remind me a bit of Laibach, but one sensed that Laibach were at least semi-conscious of their ludicrous echt seriousness. Rammstein appear to be too dense to possess such self-awareness.

Do people like Rammstein in an ironic, “it’s so awful it’s great” way, as if they were some sort of Teutonic Shaggs or Wesley Willis? Do you like Rammstein? WHY?!

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Wednesday, April 25, 2012

When A Thrift Store Prices Thrift Store Records

Posted by on Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Every record nerd has seen this while out digging at thrift stores. A sales associate in charge of media, trying to take charge, and, understandably, hoping to get a little bit more blood from a stone, starts oddly and arbitrarily pricing their records above stock asking rate. Usually it's the Elvis/Beatles/Sinatra-type "known" artists' records the that priced up. Usually. God bless 'em and I've seen all kinds, but I don't think this record will sell at the stock ValVil rate of (ahem) $1.99 per "vinyls," so $3.99 SEEMS real hopeful! Any guess as to what album?

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Tuesday, April 17, 2012

Fat Bob, Music Critic of the Millennium

Posted by on Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Once you start watching these videos of Fat Bob (actually Sean Forbes from the oi! band Hard Skin and an A&R man for Rough Trade Records) pontificating about music, you won’t be able to stop. You will succumb to his hilariously wrongheaded opinions, ludicrous self-aggrandizing, lardy visage, and gravelly voice. Start with this clip about hiphop and dubstep—in which Charles Mudede's beloved Burial gets buuuuurrrrned at the end—and move on from there, till your sides bust from Fat Bob's nonchalant comedic genius.

Thursday, April 12, 2012

JCTVxXtianHC WTF

Posted by on Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Soooooo, if I'm not careful, occasionally, I'll get sucked into watching Christian TV...ugh...it happened last night. Usually I can only watch for like, ten minutes, and it's always the "meant for teens" late night music video show on JCTV. C'mon, it's my bedtime and I'm hopeful for ANYTHING. Well, watching that shit IS A MISTAKE. It's awful. Most of the videos/songs are typically a tragic mix of '90s pop punk cliche,' Filth, and AmRep style noise/proggy math rock, recorded real nice in a slickly produced pile of time suck. Oh, there is prolly some Ministry in that mix too, a group now dubbed "Industrial Metal"...'cause you know, in 1989 goth kids and metal kids totes got along. That said, I THINK this JCTV action is supposed to be contemporary hardcore?!? YEAH? Amirtie?! Uh...hardcore...shit, it's enough to make me wish Drive Like Jehu never existed!! Okay, for instance, here is Children 18:3, their name is taken from Matthew 18:3 - "And he said: 'I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.'" They're straight pop punk, I'd reckon.

I know this has been ongoing thing, these bands, but where are they coming from? And as they seem to KEEP coming...THERE MUST BE A MARKET! Did it spring from the, once fantastic, notion that ANYONE CAN DO IT, so everyone DID?! Godamn DIY, now it has become parody. The point of the underground, once, was to press forward, but I guess, if you're in a Christian band the point is only to glorify God so the music is ultimately irrelevant. Also, as we're 20 years post-Nirvana, the marketable music scene, created/tapped in the '90s, has allowed for strict cliche's to formalize and the kids are buying into the shit 'cause they DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER. Which might explain also, when it comes to Christian's making hardcore, Christians who are blaspheming God in doing so, no one dredged up groups like the F.U.'s and their Kill For Christ EP as an example of how the streams don't cross. Whatever...as an old hardcore kid from the '80s it seems strange there is a Christian themed hardcore scene, that's some straight oil and water shit. Sheesh, I swear tonight Ima go to bed EARLY.

Also: I guess there is a Styper wannabe group out there too. Gosh, this makes me miss Dokken.

Okay, no it doesn't, nothing makes me miss Dokken.

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Monday, April 2, 2012

Bono Proves He Can Taint African Music, Too

Posted by on Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:35 PM

U2 frontman Bono recently jumped onstage with Tinariwen and Bassekou Kouyate at Festival au Désert in Timbuktu, Mali for a 15-minute jam. In the clip below, he grandstands, bellows, claps off beat, and generally looks like a world-class fool. How embarrassing. But maybe I'm being too harsh. Perhaps Bono’s (surely well-meaning) shenanigans will get some more people into these great groups. Let’s do a poll to decide what the fuck we should think about this.

Wednesday, March 28, 2012

The Funk Megan Seling Challenge: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is

Posted by on Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Okay, so maybe you've seen Megan's post about the Seattle funk scene's reaction to her funk joke. A lot of the backlash seemed to originate from this Facebook post a week ago. Many people (whose identities have been redacted with our super high-tech photo software), including me, were tagged in the post. Since then, Megan has received many hate comments and emails, and even cries of racism. (How one becomes a racist for ridiculing a genre is quite beyond all logic.)

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You'll notice the last comment from me posted three hours ago:

Hey all,
We'd like you to send in your music, and we're going to make Megan listen to it as penance for her potshot. Will you send your stuff (links, etc.) to music@thestranger.com with the subject line "FUNK MEGAN"? We want her to actually sit down and listen to the stuff and then write an article on it.

So far, no one has sent us an e-mail with the subject line "FUNK MEGAN," and no one has responded to my FB comment other than the estimable Chris Estey, who clicked the "like" button. This even though many of the complaints suggested that if she just listened to the stuff she would realize its greatness. And, to be fair, we've never covered much funk at the Stranger. So I put it to you, great funk bands of Seattle. Send us your funk, and we will force Megan to consume it all weekend. Then she is required to report on it for next week's music lead. Your move...

What the Funk? Seattle's Funk Community Hates Me (and Thinks I'm Racist, Too)

Posted by on Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:55 AM

It started with a joke in this piece about getting your music played on the radio:

Before you send anything, know who you're sending it to.
If you're a metal band, don't send your music to the hiphop show. If you're a funk band, don't send your music to a heavy metal radio station (also, don't be a funk band). It sounds like obvious advice, right? Nope. I've been hosting Locals Only, the Pacific Northwest music show, for years, and I often receive press packages from bands out of New York and California with clueless letters promising "the Locals Only audience will love us!" Not only is it a waste of time and money, but you look stupid.

First, I WAS KIDDING. It was a joke. Second, I do not like funk but that doesn't mean everyone who does should stop playing it. BECAUSE I WAS JOKING. But my anti-funk comment clearly hit members of the funk community right in the heart as the comments prove.

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The letters came via Facebook and e-mail, too. Some excerpts:

...first of all, as a veteran funkster on this scene, fuck you...what kind of snarky racist shit is that?..have you even fucking LISTENED to funk??..why NOT be a funk band?? What's your deal with suggesting to the seattle music scene not be in a band that is black music based?..i'm not mad at ya, sis, but i'm funky..i play the funk, the whole funk, nothin' but..there's quite a funky scene here in seattle...for all my fellow funksters out there,that's some insulting shit you dropped.. you need to apologize to the readers of this paper that do appreciate funk music...

And:

I'm fighting back some anger from that comment but will just say this: I won't pass up job opportunities, relationships and burn the candle at both ends for being dismissed. I moved to this city in 2000 to pursue music. The main band I'm in had to stop identifying as "funk" label because nobody in this music industry would even give us a chance. Funny how it's just accepted to dismiss and not given any thought of true artistic merit. It'd be great to be told that our music sucks, because then at least we know someone actually took the time to listen to it.

I didn't know that funk was such serious business.

UPDATE: Please see the post entitled "The Funk Megan Seling Challenge: Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is" here. —Ed.

"May I ask in what way your life is contributing to society as you sit here day after day after day in this dark room, stringing along on that stupid guitar?"

Posted by on Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:16 AM

If I don't hear clips from this mom's rant being sampled on at least a dozen songs by the end of the week, I will lose faith in the world:

I'm gonna go find my mom and hug her now.

Monday, March 19, 2012

Why Do We Keep Booking the Wrong Greek Composer?

Posted by on Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:24 PM

So, it’s come to my attention that the Paramount Theatre has booked Yanni to play there Aug. 4. (Price: $45.00-$125.00, not including applicable fees.) Last year, Trent Moorman exposed Yanni as a humorless grouch with one harmless question about testicles. Beyond that flaw, Yanni’s music is unspeakably maudlin and bland.

If we’re going to continue to book rich Greek composers, why not go for Vangelis? The man has a much more interesting back catalog and he rarely comes to the States, so demand for a live appearance by him should be astonishingly high.

If I were in charge of this endeavor, there’d be some stipulations: Only music from the Blade Runner soundtrack and earlier could be performed, but nothing from Chariots of Fire. Preferably there’d be an hour-long version of “The Dragon” and several selections from Earth and Beaubourg. Vangelis is 68; the time to hesitate is through. Who has the gumption and connections to make this happen?

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Has Anything Marginally Important Ever Happened In The History Of SXSW?

Posted by on Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Wednesday, March 14, 2012

This Week's Sound Check: "I Think There Is a Disconnect Between Local Press, Local Venues, and Local Musicians."

Posted by on Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:21 PM

This week's Sound Check has an interview with Chris Jury of the Bismarck, an opinionated dude who's never been afraid to say what's on his mind (you also may recognize his name as a longtime Line Out commenter). As proven in Trent Moorman's interview, Jury has few things to say about the state of the local music community—the bands, the media, the fans, the clubs. It's already causing a pretty interesting conversation in the comments.

Whose fault is all this? The suckiness of the scene, in your eyes?

I'm not sure there is a fault. I think there is a disconnect between local press, local venues, and local musicians. What brought this to the fore was a seemingly endless stream of minutiae about a single local band on Line Out a few weeks back. There is a large pool of exciting bands that haven't been able to garner much attention, and there are venues that want to fill the rooms. Then there is local music press that needs to straddle the line between telling people about stuff they already like and introducing new stuff to at least appear to be a likely source of information on the next thing. I'm not sure how to get them all playing together. One of the nice things is that with a blog, as opposed to a physical paper, there is no limit on content other than what someone can upload, and there are a pile of folks who would do so for free.

What do you want to see happen?
I think there is a lot of opportunity to tap an amazing group of ambitious young people who want to be making music, writing, or promoting. Rather than dumping money into the Vera Project, why don't we work to encourage spaces where bands can play their first shows? Why not let some kid book the first Tuesday night of the month at your empty bar to let them learn the ropes and try to do something fun? Why doesn't Line Out have dozens of posts daily from high school and college kids who are totally into music and want to write about it? It isn't like it costs you anything. So what if you end up with an article about how great Skrillex is. It can't be any worse than that tour diary from Monogamy Party.

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Be sure to give it a read and, if you're up for it, join the conversation. Is the music community and local media okay? Does it need some fixing? How would you fix things?

I Keep Forgetting...The Frays are NOT the Fray

Posted by on Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Every time I see/hear about the contemporary group The Fray, I get a leetle bit stoked. Uh, thing is it's only cause I THINK I'm seeing/hearing something about the '60s English R&beat group called The Frays. Their "Keep Me Covered" is an amazing, unrelenting and prolly too fast for dancing, jam!

Yes, now you can just imagine my heartbreak when I heard The Fray's muisc. Turns out they're prolly more proper for providing soundtracks to TV shows such as Gossip Girl or one of the vampire TV shows, specifically I'd reckon they'd be soundtracking a montage. Or, perhaps, they would/could make a fine contemporary Christian pop group, but never, EVER genius frantic smashed blocked R&B.

The Frays had two 45s, the second was way less exciting than the above "Keep Me Covered." John Patten aka Mike Patto sang for The Frays, he'd later front the mighty Timebox.

Tuesday, March 13, 2012

Billy Corgan: "I Was Part of a Generation That Changed the World. And it Was Taken Over by Poseurs."

Posted by on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM

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Last night, while at SXSW, Billy Corgan did an interview with Brian Solis and apparently he got a little bug in his britches regarding the current state of the music industry. A few quotes have been floating around the internet this morning, including Corgan's claim that he would have to set himself on fire to gain any attention on YouTube and saying that his generation has been replaced by fakes.

He has a point, of course, but it's hard not to roll your eyes when you consider that this is also the dude who has also dated Jessica Simpson and Tila Tequila, two women who are hardly the face of artistic integrity. I mean, isn't dating attention addict Tila Tequila basically the equivalent to setting yourself on fire on YouTube?

A sample of Corgan's quotes (from the Billboard.com story and RollingStone.com):

"I was part of a generation that changed the world—and it was taken over by poseurs."

"[Artists that break through now] have grown up thinking that being famous is the goal. Not to be respected, not to be dangerous." He compared breakthrough artists to prostitutes, saying, "[once you make that deal] you're just the fresh stripper."

"There's nothing wrong with technology. It's when technology is the story and not the artist, that's the problem."

Monday, March 12, 2012

WTF? Chris Brown's Hoodie Bears Crass' Logo

Posted by on Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Louderthanwar.com has a photo of Chris Brown wearing a hoodie emblazoned with that famous Crass logo; however, the design isn’t promoting the British anarcho-punk group, but rather International Toy Pirates Super7 by Brian Flynn. Previously, a band called Lovvers had appropriated Crass’ logo, and the band’s label, Southern, wasn’t amused. No legal action’s been taken against any of the many entities lifting Crass' logo, but it sure must irk Crass to have a world-class asshole like Brown walking around with their logo on his clothing, and probably not even realizing its origin.

Why Do So Many People Have a Seemingly Irrational Hatred of Lana Del Rey?

Posted by on Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:20 PM

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Okay, so Lana Del Rey did an in-store at Easy Street last weekend, and reportedly it was packed and she stuck around for three hours after to talk with people and sign stuff. I know, I know, the SNL performance was pretty bunk, but she's by no means the first artist to be lackluster in the live setting and still have a nice record contract. Or the first artist to use her connections in high places. Everybody uses their connections. It's how the world works. YELL ABOUT IT IN THE COMMENTS.

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