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despite the chance of having a pow wow and getting goosed out with big ghost, i downloaded this like everyone else. i think it's pretty disappointing compared to his last two albums (excluding 'more fish', which is not really an album).

Posted by cosby | February 4, 2008 10:34 AM

Dear Ghostface: friends on the Myspace do not = real friends. You know what I mean? FO REAL, REAL.

Posted by Katelyn | February 4, 2008 11:09 AM

ghost doesn't know what to do: def jam's supposed to sell his records, but his shit doesn't sell. he's supposed to have hits (w/ne-yo, chrisette michelle), but his songs aren't hits. wu-tang's supposed to be a family, but he hates RZA. he's old and awesome and new york times/village voice praise has gotten tired, only making him more of a cult hero and not the blockbuster, mainstream rap star he ought to be.

he's got lots of reasons to be paranoid that somebody is fucking up his money.

however, in the money-making spotlight, there's just no place for ghost, mef, redman or any rapper with skills and charisma that makes solid albums.

he's still a lion, but now the jungle's all about beats/hooks/singles.

ghost is a billion degrees separated from soulja boy's youtube pedigree, doesn't understand dumbing anything down, is destined to either:

push hip-hop artistically with good lyrics and a-list beats


plateau like (his hero) kool g rap, recycle old flows, and maintain his gangster

big doe rehab does both, but leans towards the latter

Posted by ndrwmtsn | February 4, 2008 11:55 AM

i think the field for alternative hip-hop now exists where it didn't ten years ago, but def jam is still leaning on ghost (and any hip-hop act for the matter) to have a hit single on each record to put it on the charts. it would be risky, but it might be a novel idea to let someone of ghostface's stature to do what they want without worrying about chart placement or first week sales. no more 'celebrate' or 'back like that' or 'tush' or 'ghost showers' - just let ghost be ghost making ridiculous crack game / street life albums without any sales expectations.

simply speaking, ghostface will never be the act that sells a lot of albums in the first week, but he'll sell a decent amount over the weeks and months following where most hip-hop albums will disappear after the first month.

Posted by cosby | February 4, 2008 12:42 PM

I honestly thought he had died a few years ago.

Posted by He's Still Alive??? | February 4, 2008 3:35 PM

actually, cosby, i'd say ghost's "mainstream" songs are some of his more interesting and that def jam IS letting him have free reign. one (fucked-up, no-chance) "single" per album is not much of a concession.

and why shouldn't he be corralled? BDR is ultimately underwhelming because ghost calls all the shots and leans too heavily on meat-and-potatoes street bangers (a la more fish, which IS an album). when other strong styles co-shape his songs (RZA, Dilla, Doom, chrisette michelle) the results are mostly awesome: ghost's style is so distinct the only thing that can dilute it is too much of itself.

did i just blow your mind?

the mangled mainstream attempts highlight the fact that he can't not be ghost, can't tolerate "clean" or "pretty".

celebrate is a good track and i don't know how you can hate it

back like that ft. neyo is a GREAT song- you never hear male pop stars hate a woman so unapologetically and with such detail. not saying its cool to hate women, not saying ghost doesn't have fucked up romance politics (he runs trains w/his son), just saying he tells a great story and doesn't have a politically correct bone in his body

you know i'm no good ft winehouse? perfect.

all that i got is you? c'mon. classic.

and what about slow down off BDR?fantastic song idea, that slowing down and speeding up. totally weird and so beautiful. chrisette michelle's best track IMO

even the carl thomas track had ghost messing up the mood and getting bent out of shape when he was supposed to be the "cool" one, which was cool without quotes to me

cosby, i think you are wrong. ghost (talented as he is) needs guidance. not as much as raekwon, maybe, but he still needs it. BDR is what happens when he doesn't get it: pretty great, but not game-changing.

Posted by ndrwmtsn | February 4, 2008 11:46 PM

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